(02-09-2018 02:41 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(02-09-2018 12:12 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 10:14 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 09:18 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 12:48 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  so when you look at facts comparing recruiting rankings and school rankings, and see that app greatly over performs to their level of talent compared to the rest of college football, you consider that an opinion?

Interesting.

I take it you aren't in a field that involves analytics of any sort.

I take it you're not in a field that involves comprehension.

The opinion I refer to is that of the recruiting "experts" who evaluate these players. A rating is nothing more than one person's opinion. The difference is where some place an unwavering belief in the accuracy of the rating system, I see it as inherently flawed. I am amused you guys are dead set on attributing App's success to a superior & stable coaching staff, simply because in your mind there is no way these low rated players could perform to that high of a standard. I have argued ad nauseam App looks for players who best fit our scheme and embrace the Boone environment, regardless of the rating. There comes a point when you have to step back and question this rating system. Five of App's top ten 3 Star signees (including the top three) didn't make it to their Soph year. Another left after the Jr year. One third of the thirty three 3 star signees left the program early. Of those who stayed and graduated, two WR's had a combined stat line of 16 receptions. 1 TD, one RB was a career back up to 2 star Marcus Cox, another had 48 carries for 197 yards. Two defensive players became starters their Sr seasons. Meanwhile none of App's All Sunbelt honorees were rated three stars. Including a OPY who failed to be given the minimum,700 2 star rating.

A) The ratings are given by people that use a set of criteria to evaluate players as their profession. If they were consistently wrong, they wouldn't have jobs in the industry for very long.
B) Those "experts" and their "opinions" are what form the ratings that so strongly correlate to on the field success.
C) I doubt you believe that those low-rated players that succeeded at App St would have done as well at a different school under a different coach, so why is it so difficult to just credit Satterfield and his staff for finding players that didn't stand out significantly in high school and developing them beyond what their abilities appeared to be?

You don't think Jalin Moore & Marcus Cox would have been great backs anywhere he went? Clifton Duck would have been a worse CB freshman All American as a true freshman - at another school? Coaching is important, but no coach can turn so-so talent into all conference players. Our staff has a very good eye for talent and I KNOW they could care less about the number of stars a prospect has.

Sent from my XT1635-01 using CSNbbs mobile app

So you think the coaching and development at App State isn't that important, then.
Interesting take.