(02-08-2018 10:06 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 09:58 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 08:50 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 08:48 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  JC App was 7th in 2015, 6th in 2016 and 2017, and now 8th in 2018 in the SBC. That will be four straight years we have clearly been out recruited.

Want to make your bet that App finishes 7th or lower the next two years?

I hear a beeping sound.

you are clearly missing the point.

Anecdotal evidence doesn't work when looking at trends of 130+ teams.

It's like saying you played russian roulette with a 6 shooter, and didn't get shot twice, therefore it's a safe game to play.

No I get your point, but you're missing mine. Some schools just get more out of the players. App is one of them, Boise is another.

Overall recruiting ranking DO provide a guide of who will be good in the future, yet a handful of programs continue to over perform their historical rankings.

We all get that point, so much so that's it's part of all our arguments. We know there are schools that overachieve because they have great coaching staffs. We are arguing against the "the recruiting rankings don't matter at all" crowd.

I've not seen one post saying recruiting doesn't matter. I've made lot's of posts saying you can't base everything on stars. First and foremost you absolutely must find players that fit your system and culture. You recruit potential and develop it. I keep a database of App's recruits star ratings. Excluding the last two signing classes, an overwhelming majority of our highest rated 3 star signees washed out of the program by their redshirt sophomore year. Conversely, some of the most decorated players in App history we're not highly regarded by the recruiting"experts". Many at the very bottom end of the rating scale. Some like to cite studies and articles, but it's hard to dispute solid data. I know, I know.... App is an exception. Explain it away all you like. Results speak for themselves.

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