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RE: 2018 Class FB Recruiting Thread
(02-05-2018 11:57 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  
(02-03-2018 12:45 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(02-02-2018 05:38 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  
(02-02-2018 01:59 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  
(02-02-2018 01:28 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  Thanks Herm 2.0, 27. in full effect! 2 teams out of 130 that are probably well within 10 spots are far as rated talent proves the typical results of the other 130 teams wrong...I mean you cant make this up lol. Again who has App beaten of note that had a significant talent advantage?

Appholes get sensitive when they drop in the rankings I see lol. Nobody in the Belt has separated themselves as far as a significant talent gap for the top teams? Not alot of difference in 90t and 95th in the country guy or can you read? If we were ranked like a top AAC team and you beat us you might have a coherent point but still only two teams out of 130. Said it a million times our conference finish is basically top half and bottom half the Sun Belt nationally is typically grouped tightly together. The standings usually reflect that as well. Same for conference ratings as the AAC is at the top and the Belt is at the bottom for now. That is not due to just coaching and development it is talent.

Troy is killing it this year but has not consistently done so if they put four classes like that together then there will be a talent gap of significance. If they drop back down into the low 90's they are right back with everyone else. You morons want to make it sound like if one team finishes one spot ahead in the rankings and does not win the system is junk lol. Im gonna go with what is typical for 130 teams not just two teams that are rivals and one had an all time bad coach.

Someone appears to be sensitive with their record.

Seems like some here are arguing that they have beaten App consistently in recruiting rankings. This appears to be backtracking due to results of the field not supporting that theory.

So now what you're saying is the rankings error rate is +/- 10 and everyone is the same. What a waste of time if that's your point now.

I have never bragged we beat anyone in rankings you App holes just seem to get your panties in a wad when ANY team has some good news. News flash also genius you have beaten in either class or per recruit avg twice since 2014 so I dont know where you get App has always been beaten by GS since we moved up. We have had ONE class to lane well above the top Sun Belt teams then followed it up with a crappy one so OVERALL talent still just at the top of the Belt.

If you are closer to the 70's like a lot of AAC team vs the 90's like most Sun Belt teams it shows on the field again it is not magic coach hiring why they are the top rated G5 and we are one of the lowest rated G5. Like how you stretched 90 and 95th to 10 spots also, nice one. App math got to love it. I see you are not going to ever name one team App has beaten that had a significant talent advantage because you have not.

I fully admit you have owned us it is what it is I get mad at horrible hires and our AD but why get mad at App? Just like GaSt has the last three years but NEVER have I said GS has any significant talent advantage over any of the upper Sun Belt teams. Actually have said the opposite over and over. You dont have anything but hyperbole, bad math and shoving words in somebodies mouth to try and make a point it is sad. Again there are 130 teams in the FBS and recruiting rankings look a lot like actual rankings and that is not a coincidence. And again it is not 100% but a very reliable INDICATOR on how a team will LIKLEY perform not a crystal ball....If not please explain to me if the G5 recruit rankings are garbage why does the AAC finish first every year in recruit rankings and G5 rankings and the Sun Belt does not, or the MAC or the MW for that matter just pure luck in coaching hires I guess right...

There are published actual studies done on this by folks a lot smarter than you or I take time to inform yourself instead of the record of two pretty even rivals out of 130 teams. Why didnt you beat Wake last year BTW since these rankings dont matter? Their coach that much better?

https://www.researchgate.net/publication...nd_Winning

Regression analysis indicates that for teams in the SEC, the Big Ten, and the Big Twelve, 63% to 80% of a team's success in their respective conference can be attributed to successful recruiting practices. The implications that these findings have on recruiting budgets and on the path to winning on the field are presented.

College Football Success: The Relationship Between Recruiting and Winning | Request PDF. Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publication...nd_Winning [accessed Feb 02 2018].
This article is focused on the P5 and primarily teams that played for the national championship. It's easy to see the talent level of the top guys. Once it gets into the 2 & 3 group you can pretty much put em all in a bucket and grab one out. Dozens of coaches have told me they pay no attention to these rankings. They are not going to rely on some unknown person sitting in front of a computer screen to guide their recruiting efforts. The reality is these rankings are to sell website subscriptions just so fans can do exactly what is going on in this thread. I am amazed that so-called intelligent people get so caught up in this charade.

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Yet App keeps offering those high three and four star guys anyway lol....You dont get a three star ranking by magic and certainly not one above .85 you have actually had to do something in high school, camps and on tape to get even a low three star ranking. .85 and above and you one of the best in the country and ranked at the state, national and or at your position.

I can post twenty plus more papers from PHD's and countless articles ohhhh like this one https://www.researchgate.net/publication...erformance or this one

http://journals.sagepub.com/author/Lange...Georgethat that includes the entire FBS proving you wrong yet App beats wins beating the lowest ranked conference and FCS teams mainly and they are all dumb lol.

There are literally people with PHD's proving you wrong but you still think you know more....03-lmfao Honestly you keep bringing a spork to gun fight. I am sure you know how to google or maybe not...anyway please provide me with the mountain of articles and research papers from PHD's saying recruit rankings are worthless for the G5...I'll would say I would wait but I have found ONE when searching and found and endless supply the other way.

Ha Ha.. You keep posting articles written by PHD's who've never strapped on a helmet and App will keep winning games with undervalued recruits. Oh by the way, we offer those 4 star guys to get our name out there. It's been a practice of Satterfield's since he became HC. Started doing it when we were a transitional program. Do you think he actually thought we had a shot at 'em? Let's make a deal. You keep on gulping down the Kool Aid and I'll continue talking to our coaches. When you get the opportunity to visit with your new DC about all this ask him about the unique culture at App and approach to our recruiting. I'm sure he will enlighten you on some things. Also be sure to ask him about the term "App Guy" you made so much fun of. Sloan can give you the entire story, especially since he's the one who coined the phrase.
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