Part of the problem is that unlike other non aq conferences, we don't have a bowl tie in with a lower tier aq school. We need to be tied in to play the Big 10 number 8 or the SEC number 10 or whatever (don't know exactly what would work best). We have been winning some games against other non aq's but winning most of them every year sure would help. We should win our games against the lower aq schools when we get a chance regardless of the bowl situation too. As has been stated; It doesn't matter who wins the conference as long as all of our teams start winning ooc games. One good thing about Troy dominating so much is that it will force the other teams to step up their game and that will help in ooc play but what we don't need is a conference champ that dominates and a conference full of teams that can't win outside of it. :soapbox: