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RE: My strategy if I were a Commissioner in the Five Major Conferences
(02-20-2013 04:22 PM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote: (02-20-2013 04:03 PM)S11 Wrote: (02-20-2013 12:07 PM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote: (02-20-2013 11:24 AM)e-bethMSU Wrote: (02-20-2013 11:06 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote: ACC- toughest job right now. Try to close ranks as much as possible, but realize that probably not much one can do about losing teams to the SEC and Big 10. Hope you lonly lose 2-4 teams and come up with a model to stave off the Big 12 feasting on leftovers. I would even consider adding Cincy and UConn now, so that if you lose 2 each to the SEC and Big 10, you may be left with a 12 team league, that while weakened, is still viable and may still be more attractive than the some what far away and division structure challenged Big 12 option.
i understand the "add 2 now to be sure to be at least 12 after the SEC and BIG raids" strategy - but shouldn't you go after west virginia and cincinnati (connecticut has nowhere to go - no rush). that reduces the big 12 to 9, while shoring up acc football and west virginia is the only "gettable" big 12 program because of their eastern geography (but no sure thing, i admit - just the acc's best available strategy).
assuming virginia and unc to BIG, virginia tech and ncsu to SEC, i assume notre dame doesn't stay, acc becomes:
north: bc, syracuse, pitt, cincinnati, louisville, west virginia
south: wake, duke, clemson, georgia tech, fsu, miami
big 12 is reduced to: texas, texas tech, baylor, tcu, oklahoma, oklahoma state, kansas, kansas state, iowa state
then hope the pac-12 comes back after texas, texas tech, oklahoma, and oklahoma state
big 12 is now: tcu, baylor, kansas, kansas state and iowa state
acc survives as a big 4; big 12 is diminished to gang of "6"
That's a good strategy if they were playing "Risk", but it is practically an impossibility since WVU has signed a GOR, will make more in the Big 12 than the ACC, and just moved legal mountains just to get into the Big 12 (which presumably would even be more comlex and expensive to get out). Plus WVU wouldn't know if the ACC was going to lose 2, 4 or 10 teams, and no need to burn the Big 12 bridge. Not to mention there is bad blood between WVU and the ACC.
Don't think WVU is an option for the ACC.
If the Big 10 and SEC grab UVA, UNC, NCSTATE, and VT there is NO WAY the money for the ACC is good enough to fend off a Big 12 raid.
What would happen at that point is the Big 12 offers FSU, Clemson, Miami, GT at least. If they demand 2 more we probably do that.
If you are those 4 southern ACC teams you'd be trading teams in the eastern time zone that (other than Duke & Wake) are 2+ states away for central time zone teams + WVU. Why stay and make less money if you can move with a mostly sensible geographic division.
If you added the southern 4 + UL + one of Duke, Pitt, or Cincy (depending on who TV and the presidents want) you'd take what they like from the ACC and raise the money.
I suspect you are right, but to quote Argo, they have to look for the best bad plan they can.
The reality is that they will probably add UConn and Cincy sooner or later. Why not now?
If they don't keep the payout even with where it is, adding them simply encourages teams to look around.
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