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UMass vs Georgia State - Chappy - 09-15-2017 08:06 AM
After reading both teams' press releases, I noticed a real difference in the tones. It's almost comical.
From the Georgia State website (LINK):
Quote:Memphis has cancelled its Sept. 30 game at Georgia State as part of a schedule reshuffling orchestrated by the American Athletic Conference involving seven of its teams.
Despite the existing contract between Memphis and Georgia State, the AAC rescheduled the Memphis-UCF game for Sept. 30 after their Sept. 9 contest was postponed by Hurricane Irma.
Per the contract, Georgia State will receive $1.1 million in cancellation fees and expenses.
Georgia State Director of Athletics Charlie Cobb said he is exploring all options for a replacement game this season.
“We are disappointed for our fans and our football program with the cancellation of this game, but it is beyond our control,” Cobb said. “All we can do is search for a suitable replacement, preferably a home FBS game this season.”
From the UMass website (LINK):
Quote:University of Massachusetts football agreed Thursday to accommodate a Hurricane Irma-related scheduling change request made by the American Athletic Conference (AAC) and the University of South Florida (USF) and postponed the teams' planned meeting at USF in Tampa, Florida, on Sat., Oct. 14, 2017. Additionally, UMass and Florida International University (FIU) have agreed in principle to play a game at FIU in Miami, Florida, on Sat., Dec. 2, 2017.
UMass and USF will complete the postponed contest at USF on a to-be-determined date during the 2022 or 2023 seasons. The UMass-USF game in Massachusetts slated for the 2018 season remains unaffected by these scheduling changes.
The UMass-FIU contest on Dec. 2, 2017 will be the 12th for both teams, as FIU previously cancelled its game against Indiana, originally slated for Sat., Sept. 16, 2017. FIU will return to UMass during the 2020 season on a to-be-determined date. Should FIU qualify for the C-USA Championship Game on Sat., Dec. 2, the 2017 UMass-FIU meeting will not be played. In this scenario, the 2020 UMass-FIU game is unaffected and UMass will travel to FIU during a future season following the 2020 meeting.
I think its's a bad look for Georgia State, while UMass clearly values their relationship with the AAC.
RE: UMass vs Georgia State - HuskyU - 09-15-2017 08:20 AM
True story. Georgia State following in the footsteps of Arkansas State... Not a good look. Much respect to UMass and Bamford.
RE: UMass vs Georgia State - cscottl1981 - 09-15-2017 08:24 AM
Send G State a rack of ribs and call it good. It's goofy to be playing games on their home turf to begin with.
RE: UMass vs Georgia State - KNIGHTTIME - 09-15-2017 08:27 AM
Ga State better be careful. It won't be good getting black balled by the entire conference for future scheduling.
RE: UMass vs Georgia State - panama - 09-15-2017 08:28 AM
(09-15-2017 08:06 AM)Chappy Wrote: After reading both teams' press releases, I noticed a real difference in the tones. It's almost comical.I wasn't on the phone yesterday but me things someone ticked Charlie off.
From the Georgia State website (LINK):
Quote:Memphis has cancelled its Sept. 30 game at Georgia State as part of a schedule reshuffling orchestrated by the American Athletic Conference involving seven of its teams.
Despite the existing contract between Memphis and Georgia State, the AAC rescheduled the Memphis-UCF game for Sept. 30 after their Sept. 9 contest was postponed by Hurricane Irma.
Per the contract, Georgia State will receive $1.1 million in cancellation fees and expenses.
Georgia State Director of Athletics Charlie Cobb said he is exploring all options for a replacement game this season.
“We are disappointed for our fans and our football program with the cancellation of this game, but it is beyond our control,” Cobb said. “All we can do is search for a suitable replacement, preferably a home FBS game this season.”
From the UMass website (LINK):
Quote:University of Massachusetts football agreed Thursday to accommodate a Hurricane Irma-related scheduling change request made by the American Athletic Conference (AAC) and the University of South Florida (USF) and postponed the teams' planned meeting at USF in Tampa, Florida, on Sat., Oct. 14, 2017. Additionally, UMass and Florida International University (FIU) have agreed in principle to play a game at FIU in Miami, Florida, on Sat., Dec. 2, 2017.
UMass and USF will complete the postponed contest at USF on a to-be-determined date during the 2022 or 2023 seasons. The UMass-USF game in Massachusetts slated for the 2018 season remains unaffected by these scheduling changes.
The UMass-FIU contest on Dec. 2, 2017 will be the 12th for both teams, as FIU previously cancelled its game against Indiana, originally slated for Sat., Sept. 16, 2017. FIU will return to UMass during the 2020 season on a to-be-determined date. Should FIU qualify for the C-USA Championship Game on Sat., Dec. 2, the 2017 UMass-FIU meeting will not be played. In this scenario, the 2020 UMass-FIU game is unaffected and UMass will travel to FIU during a future season following the 2020 meeting.
I think its's a bad look for Georgia State, while UMass clearly values their relationship with the AAC.
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RE: UMass vs Georgia State - panama - 09-15-2017 08:29 AM
(09-15-2017 08:20 AM)HuskyU Wrote: True story. Georgia State following in the footsteps of Arkansas State... Not a good look. Much respect to UMass and Bamford.It's all good. I say we leave the week open and just play 11.
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RE: UMass vs Georgia State - panama - 09-15-2017 08:29 AM
(09-15-2017 08:24 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote: Send G State a rack of ribs and call it good. It's goofy to be playing games on their home turf to begin with.We have BBQ. Thanks
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RE: UMass vs Georgia State - Atlanta - 09-15-2017 08:36 AM
(09-15-2017 08:28 AM)panama Wrote:(09-15-2017 08:06 AM)Chappy Wrote: After reading both teams' press releases, I noticed a real difference in the tones. It's almost comical.I wasn't on the phone yesterday but me things someone ticked Charlie off.
From the Georgia State website (LINK):
Quote:Memphis has cancelled its Sept. 30 game at Georgia State as part of a schedule reshuffling orchestrated by the American Athletic Conference involving seven of its teams.
Despite the existing contract between Memphis and Georgia State, the AAC rescheduled the Memphis-UCF game for Sept. 30 after their Sept. 9 contest was postponed by Hurricane Irma.
Per the contract, Georgia State will receive $1.1 million in cancellation fees and expenses.
Georgia State Director of Athletics Charlie Cobb said he is exploring all options for a replacement game this season.
“We are disappointed for our fans and our football program with the cancellation of this game, but it is beyond our control,” Cobb said. “All we can do is search for a suitable replacement, preferably a home FBS game this season.”
From the UMass website (LINK):
Quote:University of Massachusetts football agreed Thursday to accommodate a Hurricane Irma-related scheduling change request made by the American Athletic Conference (AAC) and the University of South Florida (USF) and postponed the teams' planned meeting at USF in Tampa, Florida, on Sat., Oct. 14, 2017. Additionally, UMass and Florida International University (FIU) have agreed in principle to play a game at FIU in Miami, Florida, on Sat., Dec. 2, 2017.
UMass and USF will complete the postponed contest at USF on a to-be-determined date during the 2022 or 2023 seasons. The UMass-USF game in Massachusetts slated for the 2018 season remains unaffected by these scheduling changes.
The UMass-FIU contest on Dec. 2, 2017 will be the 12th for both teams, as FIU previously cancelled its game against Indiana, originally slated for Sat., Sept. 16, 2017. FIU will return to UMass during the 2020 season on a to-be-determined date. Should FIU qualify for the C-USA Championship Game on Sat., Dec. 2, the 2017 UMass-FIU meeting will not be played. In this scenario, the 2020 UMass-FIU game is unaffected and UMass will travel to FIU during a future season following the 2020 meeting.
I think its's a bad look for Georgia State, while UMass clearly values their relationship with the AAC.
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Likely means GA St won't be playing AAC schools in the future which is probably good for the GA St record. But this approach likely shows the difficulty GA St has with funding the FB program. After all, they don't sell many tickets & the state of GA has restricted the amount they can extort from students in activity fees - makes them look pretty desperate.
RE: UMass vs Georgia State - panama - 09-15-2017 08:41 AM
(09-15-2017 08:36 AM)Atlanta Wrote:It's a press release. Good grief. It's not the Zapruder film. No hidden meaning. And the release is for our fanbase and Atlantans who were looking forward to this game. There are a lot of folks who are not diehards buying tickets out of curiosity and to see the stadium. This was one of the main games because its a close by recognizable opponent. No need to read anything else into it. As for future games with AAC opponents we don't have many Football openings and nobody wants to return a game with our MBB team anyway. But ultimately when scheduling business is business.(09-15-2017 08:28 AM)panama Wrote:(09-15-2017 08:06 AM)Chappy Wrote: After reading both teams' press releases, I noticed a real difference in the tones. It's almost comical.I wasn't on the phone yesterday but me things someone ticked Charlie off.
From the Georgia State website (LINK):
Quote:Memphis has cancelled its Sept. 30 game at Georgia State as part of a schedule reshuffling orchestrated by the American Athletic Conference involving seven of its teams.
Despite the existing contract between Memphis and Georgia State, the AAC rescheduled the Memphis-UCF game for Sept. 30 after their Sept. 9 contest was postponed by Hurricane Irma.
Per the contract, Georgia State will receive $1.1 million in cancellation fees and expenses.
Georgia State Director of Athletics Charlie Cobb said he is exploring all options for a replacement game this season.
“We are disappointed for our fans and our football program with the cancellation of this game, but it is beyond our control,” Cobb said. “All we can do is search for a suitable replacement, preferably a home FBS game this season.”
From the UMass website (LINK):
Quote:University of Massachusetts football agreed Thursday to accommodate a Hurricane Irma-related scheduling change request made by the American Athletic Conference (AAC) and the University of South Florida (USF) and postponed the teams' planned meeting at USF in Tampa, Florida, on Sat., Oct. 14, 2017. Additionally, UMass and Florida International University (FIU) have agreed in principle to play a game at FIU in Miami, Florida, on Sat., Dec. 2, 2017.
UMass and USF will complete the postponed contest at USF on a to-be-determined date during the 2022 or 2023 seasons. The UMass-USF game in Massachusetts slated for the 2018 season remains unaffected by these scheduling changes.
The UMass-FIU contest on Dec. 2, 2017 will be the 12th for both teams, as FIU previously cancelled its game against Indiana, originally slated for Sat., Sept. 16, 2017. FIU will return to UMass during the 2020 season on a to-be-determined date. Should FIU qualify for the C-USA Championship Game on Sat., Dec. 2, the 2017 UMass-FIU meeting will not be played. In this scenario, the 2020 UMass-FIU game is unaffected and UMass will travel to FIU during a future season following the 2020 meeting.
I think its's a bad look for Georgia State, while UMass clearly values their relationship with the AAC.
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Likely means GA St won't be playing AAC schools in the future which is probably good for the GA St record. But this approach likely shows the difficulty GA St has with funding the FB program. After all, they don't sell many tickets & the state of GA has restricted the amount they can extort from students in activity fees - makes them look pretty desperate.
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RE: UMass vs Georgia State - CoastalJuan - 09-15-2017 08:51 AM
(09-15-2017 08:41 AM)panama Wrote:(09-15-2017 08:36 AM)Atlanta Wrote:It's a press release. Good grief. It's not the Zapruder film. No hidden meaning. And the release is for our fanbase and Atlantans who were looking forward to this game. There are a lot of folks who are not diehards buying tickets out of curiosity and to see the stadium. This was one of the main games because its a close by recognizable opponent. No need to read anything else into it. As for future games with AAC opponents we don't have many Football openings and nobody wants to return a game with our MBB team anyway. But ultimately when scheduling business is business.(09-15-2017 08:28 AM)panama Wrote:(09-15-2017 08:06 AM)Chappy Wrote: After reading both teams' press releases, I noticed a real difference in the tones. It's almost comical.I wasn't on the phone yesterday but me things someone ticked Charlie off.
From the Georgia State website (LINK):
Quote:Memphis has cancelled its Sept. 30 game at Georgia State as part of a schedule reshuffling orchestrated by the American Athletic Conference involving seven of its teams.
Despite the existing contract between Memphis and Georgia State, the AAC rescheduled the Memphis-UCF game for Sept. 30 after their Sept. 9 contest was postponed by Hurricane Irma.
Per the contract, Georgia State will receive $1.1 million in cancellation fees and expenses.
Georgia State Director of Athletics Charlie Cobb said he is exploring all options for a replacement game this season.
“We are disappointed for our fans and our football program with the cancellation of this game, but it is beyond our control,” Cobb said. “All we can do is search for a suitable replacement, preferably a home FBS game this season.”
From the UMass website (LINK):
Quote:University of Massachusetts football agreed Thursday to accommodate a Hurricane Irma-related scheduling change request made by the American Athletic Conference (AAC) and the University of South Florida (USF) and postponed the teams' planned meeting at USF in Tampa, Florida, on Sat., Oct. 14, 2017. Additionally, UMass and Florida International University (FIU) have agreed in principle to play a game at FIU in Miami, Florida, on Sat., Dec. 2, 2017.
UMass and USF will complete the postponed contest at USF on a to-be-determined date during the 2022 or 2023 seasons. The UMass-USF game in Massachusetts slated for the 2018 season remains unaffected by these scheduling changes.
The UMass-FIU contest on Dec. 2, 2017 will be the 12th for both teams, as FIU previously cancelled its game against Indiana, originally slated for Sat., Sept. 16, 2017. FIU will return to UMass during the 2020 season on a to-be-determined date. Should FIU qualify for the C-USA Championship Game on Sat., Dec. 2, the 2017 UMass-FIU meeting will not be played. In this scenario, the 2020 UMass-FIU game is unaffected and UMass will travel to FIU during a future season following the 2020 meeting.
I think its's a bad look for Georgia State, while UMass clearly values their relationship with the AAC.
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Likely means GA St won't be playing AAC schools in the future which is probably good for the GA St record. But this approach likely shows the difficulty GA St has with funding the FB program. After all, they don't sell many tickets & the state of GA has restricted the amount they can extort from students in activity fees - makes them look pretty desperate.
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I prefer ATLiens
RE: UMass vs Georgia State - panama - 09-15-2017 09:05 AM
(09-15-2017 08:51 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:(09-15-2017 08:41 AM)panama Wrote:(09-15-2017 08:36 AM)Atlanta Wrote:It's a press release. Good grief. It's not the Zapruder film. No hidden meaning. And the release is for our fanbase and Atlantans who were looking forward to this game. There are a lot of folks who are not diehards buying tickets out of curiosity and to see the stadium. This was one of the main games because its a close by recognizable opponent. No need to read anything else into it. As for future games with AAC opponents we don't have many Football openings and nobody wants to return a game with our MBB team anyway. But ultimately when scheduling business is business.(09-15-2017 08:28 AM)panama Wrote:(09-15-2017 08:06 AM)Chappy Wrote: After reading both teams' press releases, I noticed a real difference in the tones. It's almost comical.I wasn't on the phone yesterday but me things someone ticked Charlie off.
From the Georgia State website (LINK):
From the UMass website (LINK):
I think its's a bad look for Georgia State, while UMass clearly values their relationship with the AAC.
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Likely means GA St won't be playing AAC schools in the future which is probably good for the GA St record. But this approach likely shows the difficulty GA St has with funding the FB program. After all, they don't sell many tickets & the state of GA has restricted the amount they can extort from students in activity fees - makes them look pretty desperate.
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Telling your age.
RE: UMass vs Georgia State - TripleA - 09-15-2017 09:09 AM
(09-15-2017 08:41 AM)panama Wrote:(09-15-2017 08:36 AM)Atlanta Wrote:It's a press release. Good grief. It's not the Zapruder film. No hidden meaning. And the release is for our fanbase and Atlantans who were looking forward to this game. There are a lot of folks who are not diehards buying tickets out of curiosity and to see the stadium. This was one of the main games because its a close by recognizable opponent. No need to read anything else into it. As for future games with AAC opponents we don't have many Football openings and nobody wants to return a game with our MBB team anyway. But ultimately when scheduling business is business.(09-15-2017 08:28 AM)panama Wrote:(09-15-2017 08:06 AM)Chappy Wrote: After reading both teams' press releases, I noticed a real difference in the tones. It's almost comical.I wasn't on the phone yesterday but me things someone ticked Charlie off.
From the Georgia State website (LINK):
Quote:Memphis has cancelled its Sept. 30 game at Georgia State as part of a schedule reshuffling orchestrated by the American Athletic Conference involving seven of its teams.
Despite the existing contract between Memphis and Georgia State, the AAC rescheduled the Memphis-UCF game for Sept. 30 after their Sept. 9 contest was postponed by Hurricane Irma.
Per the contract, Georgia State will receive $1.1 million in cancellation fees and expenses.
Georgia State Director of Athletics Charlie Cobb said he is exploring all options for a replacement game this season.
“We are disappointed for our fans and our football program with the cancellation of this game, but it is beyond our control,” Cobb said. “All we can do is search for a suitable replacement, preferably a home FBS game this season.”
From the UMass website (LINK):
Quote:University of Massachusetts football agreed Thursday to accommodate a Hurricane Irma-related scheduling change request made by the American Athletic Conference (AAC) and the University of South Florida (USF) and postponed the teams' planned meeting at USF in Tampa, Florida, on Sat., Oct. 14, 2017. Additionally, UMass and Florida International University (FIU) have agreed in principle to play a game at FIU in Miami, Florida, on Sat., Dec. 2, 2017.
UMass and USF will complete the postponed contest at USF on a to-be-determined date during the 2022 or 2023 seasons. The UMass-USF game in Massachusetts slated for the 2018 season remains unaffected by these scheduling changes.
The UMass-FIU contest on Dec. 2, 2017 will be the 12th for both teams, as FIU previously cancelled its game against Indiana, originally slated for Sat., Sept. 16, 2017. FIU will return to UMass during the 2020 season on a to-be-determined date. Should FIU qualify for the C-USA Championship Game on Sat., Dec. 2, the 2017 UMass-FIU meeting will not be played. In this scenario, the 2020 UMass-FIU game is unaffected and UMass will travel to FIU during a future season following the 2020 meeting.
I think its's a bad look for Georgia State, while UMass clearly values their relationship with the AAC.
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Likely means GA St won't be playing AAC schools in the future which is probably good for the GA St record. But this approach likely shows the difficulty GA St has with funding the FB program. After all, they don't sell many tickets & the state of GA has restricted the amount they can extort from students in activity fees - makes them look pretty desperate.
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Ok, I'll buy your explanation. But even then, do you not acknowledge the distinct difference in tone between the 2 statements?
I wanted to play Ga State, because I live near Atlanta, but my first impression is the GSU statement was whiny, even without reading UMass'. I mean, any reasonable person understands why Memphis and UCF want and need to play this game. Not to mention, you got paid $1.1M not to play. So nobody much is going to be sympathetic.
Has happened to us on a regular basis, as well. Arkansas and TN owe us a FB game each that they were contractually obligated to play and never paid us a penny. They just kept moving the year back. Missouri is now doing the same thing. It's strictly b/c we got a lot better and they don't want to risk the loss. Ole Miss dumped us for the same reason. They just didn't screw us out of a game.
Our reason was much more legit. Sorry, sincerely, but your admin should man up and deal with it.
RE: UMass vs Georgia State - Hood-rich - 09-15-2017 09:14 AM
ffs, GA State lost to TN State. What difference does it make who they play? They didn't have a prayer against Memphis.
RE: UMass vs Georgia State - CitrusUCF - 09-15-2017 09:19 AM
(09-15-2017 09:14 AM)Hood-rich Wrote: ffs, GA State lost to TN State. What difference does it make who they play? They didn't have a prayer against Memphis.
Yeah, seems to me the easiest thing for Georgia State would have been taking on Maine (UCF's opponent) and maybe getting a win. I'm sure they'll manage to eek one out at some point this year, but losing to Tennessee State is pretty rough.
Then rescheduling Memphis for a future year, and then maybe getting UCF to agree to a 1-1. That seems like a win-win for all parties, but Georgia State decided to be petulant it seems.
RE: UMass vs Georgia State - TripleA - 09-15-2017 09:19 AM
(09-15-2017 09:14 AM)Hood-rich Wrote: ffs, GA State lost to TN State. What difference does it make who they play? They didn't have a prayer against Memphis.
I just think they had sold a lot of tix and it was a home field showcase in their new stadium. I get that part.
RE: UMass vs Georgia State - Bull - 09-15-2017 09:26 AM
I'd say it's in poor taste... and in college football good relationships matter.
In a disaster situation, you are either pitching in, contributing, and helping out... or you are looking out for yourself. Even in college football...
RE: UMass vs Georgia State - Attackcoog - 09-15-2017 09:44 AM
Who paid the cancellation fees? Did the league pay or were the individual schools on the hook?
RE: UMass vs Georgia State - geosnooker2000 - 09-15-2017 10:04 AM
(09-15-2017 08:29 AM)panama Wrote:(09-15-2017 08:24 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote: Send G State a rack of ribs and call it good. It's goofy to be playing games on their home turf to begin with.We have BBQ. Thanks
THAT... is funny.
RE: UMass vs Georgia State - geosnooker2000 - 09-15-2017 10:09 AM
(09-15-2017 09:44 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: Who paid the cancellation fees? Did the league pay or were the individual schools on the hook?
I am interested to know that as well.
RE: UMass vs Georgia State - KNIGHTTIME - 09-15-2017 10:14 AM
We need another home game. Maybe Ga State woukd be interested in traveling to Orlando if they haven't burnt the bridge?