(09-03-2017 10:30 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  Great game. Did in the Eers!. Nice job. Got a very good young QB.

(09-03-2017 10:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 10:30 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  Great game. Did in the Eers!. Nice job. Got a very good young QB.

Indeed. Both defenses played well but VaTech got the win with a slightly better offense. What is epic about this game is yet to play out. Texas was leveled by Maryland. Baylor crucified by Liberty, West Virginia now has a blemish against a school not likely to finish in the top 10, and Oklahoma travels to Columbus to face the Buckeyes next week. Should Oklahoma lose to the Ohio State it's going to be very difficult for a 1 loss team from the Big 12 to make the CFP. Why? SOS wins. They will either have horrible losses, or a horrible record against the other P5. T.C.U. has an upcoming shot at Arkansas, but what T.C.U. and O.S.U. will now face is the absolute need to remain perfect and that simply doesn't happen in their round robin and now that they have the best two finishers playing in a CCG there's an extra loss to be passed around and an extra game to play. If Arkansas beats T.C.U. I can see no path for a 1 loss Big 12 school to get into the CFP unless 2 of the other conferences have 2 loss champions.

(09-04-2017 06:36 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 10:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 10:30 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  Great game. Did in the Eers!. Nice job. Got a very good young QB.

Indeed. Both defenses played well but VaTech got the win with a slightly better offense. What is epic about this game is yet to play out. Texas was leveled by Maryland. Baylor crucified by Liberty, West Virginia now has a blemish against a school not likely to finish in the top 10, and Oklahoma travels to Columbus to face the Buckeyes next week. Should Oklahoma lose to the Ohio State it's going to be very difficult for a 1 loss team from the Big 12 to make the CFP. Why? SOS wins. They will either have horrible losses, or a horrible record against the other P5. T.C.U. has an upcoming shot at Arkansas, but what T.C.U. and O.S.U. will now face is the absolute need to remain perfect and that simply doesn't happen in their round robin and now that they have the best two finishers playing in a CCG there's an extra loss to be passed around and an extra game to play. If Arkansas beats T.C.U. I can see no path for a 1 loss Big 12 school to get into the CFP unless 2 of the other conferences have 2 loss champions.

Yep. That said, ACC teams better win a few more P5 OOC games too (just to be sure)

(09-04-2017 07:49 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-04-2017 06:36 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 10:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 10:30 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  Great game. Did in the Eers!. Nice job. Got a very good young QB.

Indeed. Both defenses played well but VaTech got the win with a slightly better offense. What is epic about this game is yet to play out. Texas was leveled by Maryland. Baylor crucified by Liberty, West Virginia now has a blemish against a school not likely to finish in the top 10, and Oklahoma travels to Columbus to face the Buckeyes next week. Should Oklahoma lose to the Ohio State it's going to be very difficult for a 1 loss team from the Big 12 to make the CFP. Why? SOS wins. They will either have horrible losses, or a horrible record against the other P5. T.C.U. has an upcoming shot at Arkansas, but what T.C.U. and O.S.U. will now face is the absolute need to remain perfect and that simply doesn't happen in their round robin and now that they have the best two finishers playing in a CCG there's an extra loss to be passed around and an extra game to play. If Arkansas beats T.C.U. I can see no path for a 1 loss Big 12 school to get into the CFP unless 2 of the other conferences have 2 loss champions.

Yep. That said, ACC teams better win a few more P5 OOC games too (just to be sure)

Mark, the ACC has a safety net. Florida is still weak, and Clemson is still stronger than So. Carolina. You get the end of the season rivalry games to help make up distance. And Va Tech just got their OOC P win. The Big 12 has nothing after the first three games but conference play. In other words no chance to boost their OOC after week 3, and the rest of the season to have to live with first impressions.

(09-05-2017 09:47 AM)ken d Wrote:  Between now and 2025, West Virginia will play at least one ACC opponent every year, and two in 2022 (Va Tech and Pitt).

I hope the ACC will eventually get over its animosity and/or disrespect toward the Mountaineers, and will put them at the top of their potential expansion list. They are, IMO, the best available candidate who would actually consider making a switch.

(09-05-2017 10:40 AM)jtwvu87 Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 09:47 AM)ken d Wrote:  Between now and 2025, West Virginia will play at least one ACC opponent every year, and two in 2022 (Va Tech and Pitt).

I hope the ACC will eventually get over its animosity and/or disrespect toward the Mountaineers, and will put them at the top of their potential expansion list. They are, IMO, the best available candidate who would actually consider making a switch.

that would be great. i knw fan behavior & academics will need 2 improve & perhaps the ACC would call us Ken D!

(09-05-2017 10:48 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 10:40 AM)jtwvu87 Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 09:47 AM)ken d Wrote:  Between now and 2025, West Virginia will play at least one ACC opponent every year, and two in 2022 (Va Tech and Pitt).

I hope the ACC will eventually get over its animosity and/or disrespect toward the Mountaineers, and will put them at the top of their potential expansion list. They are, IMO, the best available candidate who would actually consider making a switch.

that would be great. i knw fan behavior & academics will need 2 improve & perhaps the ACC would call us Ken D!

They would be the rug that tied the room together to quote another Dude. Last year WVU made the NCAA baseball tournament (check), they bridge the geographical void that the Maryland departure created (check), they have natural rivalries with Pitt and Va Tech and old ties to Miami and Syracuse (check), they play good and sometimes very good to great basketball (check), and they would be acceptable to the football first schools (check).

But as usual they would have to overcome the thinking of the Tobacco Road mafia. So we'll see.

(09-05-2017 10:48 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 10:40 AM)jtwvu87 Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 09:47 AM)ken d Wrote:  Between now and 2025, West Virginia will play at least one ACC opponent every year, and two in 2022 (Va Tech and Pitt).

I hope the ACC will eventually get over its animosity and/or disrespect toward the Mountaineers, and will put them at the top of their potential expansion list. They are, IMO, the best available candidate who would actually consider making a switch.

that would be great. i knw fan behavior & academics will need 2 improve & perhaps the ACC would call us Ken D!

They would be the rug that tied the room together to quote another Dude. Last year WVU made the NCAA baseball tournament (check), they bridge the geographical void that the Maryland departure created (check), they have natural rivalries with Pitt and Va Tech and old ties to Miami and Syracuse (check), they play good and sometimes very good to great basketball (check), and they would be acceptable to the football first schools (check).

But as usual they would have to overcome the thinking of the Tobacco Road mafia. So we'll see.

(09-05-2017 10:48 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 10:40 AM)jtwvu87 Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 09:47 AM)ken d Wrote:  Between now and 2025, West Virginia will play at least one ACC opponent every year, and two in 2022 (Va Tech and Pitt).

I hope the ACC will eventually get over its animosity and/or disrespect toward the Mountaineers, and will put them at the top of their potential expansion list. They are, IMO, the best available candidate who would actually consider making a switch.

that would be great. i knw fan behavior & academics will need 2 improve & perhaps the ACC would call us Ken D!

They would be the rug that tied the room together to quote another Dude. Last year WVU made the NCAA baseball tournament (check), they bridge the geographical void that the Maryland departure created (check), they have natural rivalries with Pitt and Va Tech and old ties to Miami and Syracuse (check), they play good and sometimes very good to great basketball (check), and they would be acceptable to the football first schools (check).

But as usual they would have to overcome the thinking of the Tobacco Road mafia. So we'll see.

(09-05-2017 11:04 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 10:48 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 10:40 AM)jtwvu87 Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 09:47 AM)ken d Wrote:  Between now and 2025, West Virginia will play at least one ACC opponent every year, and two in 2022 (Va Tech and Pitt).

I hope the ACC will eventually get over its animosity and/or disrespect toward the Mountaineers, and will put them at the top of their potential expansion list. They are, IMO, the best available candidate who would actually consider making a switch.

that would be great. i knw fan behavior & academics will need 2 improve & perhaps the ACC would call us Ken D!

They would be the rug that tied the room together to quote another Dude. Last year WVU made the NCAA baseball tournament (check), they bridge the geographical void that the Maryland departure created (check), they have natural rivalries with Pitt and Va Tech and old ties to Miami and Syracuse (check), they play good and sometimes very good to great basketball (check), and they would be acceptable to the football first schools (check).

But as usual they would have to overcome the thinking of the Tobacco Road mafia. So we'll see.

Besides Maryland and Penn State, WV would be the most natural all sport pickup that the ACC could get. I was upset with WV the way they left the BE. And then the way the classless loudmouth Luck would spout off. But now he's gone and I'm over the whole BE thing, now that SU is solidly in the ACC. I would love to see WV in the ACC.

(09-05-2017 02:25 PM)H.U.S.T.L.E. Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 11:04 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 10:48 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 10:40 AM)jtwvu87 Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 09:47 AM)ken d Wrote:  Between now and 2025, West Virginia will play at least one ACC opponent every year, and two in 2022 (Va Tech and Pitt).

I hope the ACC will eventually get over its animosity and/or disrespect toward the Mountaineers, and will put them at the top of their potential expansion list. They are, IMO, the best available candidate who would actually consider making a switch.

that would be great. i knw fan behavior & academics will need 2 improve & perhaps the ACC would call us Ken D!

They would be the rug that tied the room together to quote another Dude. Last year WVU made the NCAA baseball tournament (check), they bridge the geographical void that the Maryland departure created (check), they have natural rivalries with Pitt and Va Tech and old ties to Miami and Syracuse (check), they play good and sometimes very good to great basketball (check), and they would be acceptable to the football first schools (check).

But as usual they would have to overcome the thinking of the Tobacco Road mafia. So we'll see.

Besides Maryland and Penn State, WV would be the most natural all sport pickup that the ACC could get. I was upset with WV the way they left the BE. And then the way the classless loudmouth Luck would spout off. But now he's gone and I'm over the whole BE thing, now that SU is solidly in the ACC. I would love to see WV in the ACC.

I've said numerous times on the board that I'd be receptive to adding WVU to the ACC. However, older VT fans who remember how bad things got between the two fanbases want nothing to do with them.

The part that becomes trickier is slotting WVU into the division alignment. Personally, I think it makes the most sense to slide them into the Coastal where you'd have annual matchups of the Backyard Brawl & Black Diamond Trophy. But given the sheer numbers of conference members at that point, what do you do for cross division matchups? Syracuse probably wants to play WVU & Pitt every year, which wouldn't happen with the current scheduling ethos.

(09-05-2017 10:48 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 10:40 AM)jtwvu87 Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 09:47 AM)ken d Wrote:  Between now and 2025, West Virginia will play at least one ACC opponent every year, and two in 2022 (Va Tech and Pitt).

I hope the ACC will eventually get over its animosity and/or disrespect toward the Mountaineers, and will put them at the top of their potential expansion list. They are, IMO, the best available candidate who would actually consider making a switch.

that would be great. i knw fan behavior & academics will need 2 improve & perhaps the ACC would call us Ken D!

They would be the rug that tied the room together to quote another Dude. Last year WVU made the NCAA baseball tournament (check), they bridge the geographical void that the Maryland departure created (check), they have natural rivalries with Pitt and Va Tech and old ties to Miami and Syracuse (check), they play good and sometimes very good to great basketball (check), and they would be acceptable to the football first schools (check).

But as usual they would have to overcome the thinking of the Tobacco Road mafia. So we'll see.