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Who has the most difficult OOC Schedule? - ODU AGGIE - 08-06-2017 11:43 AM
I got to wondering which conference team has the hardest OOC schedule this year, and this is what I came up with for the East.
Based on the ESPN Power Index, I awarded points to each of the opponents in the inverse order of their power index ranking, i.e., the number 130 ranked team received one point, the 129 ranked team received two points, and so forth. (http://www.espn.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings) I awarded all FCS opponents zero points.
I used the total opponents' points for each team to place them in rank order, with the team garnering the most points being ranked first with the hardest schedule, down to the team garnering the least points being ranked seventh with the easiest schedule. This is how it turned out.
1. Middle Tennessee (251 points) – Vanderbilt, Minnesota, Syracuse, Bowling Green
2. Marshall (239 points) – Miami (Ohio), NC State, Kent State, Cincinnati
3. Old Dominion (222 points) – Albany, North Carolina, Virginia Tech, UMass
4. Florida International (194 points) – Alcorn State, Central Florida, Indiana, Tulane
5. Florida Atlantic (183 points) – Bethune-Cookman, Navy, Wisconsin, Buffalo
6. Western Kentucky (157 points) – Eastern Kentucky, Ball State, Illinois, Vanderbilt
7. Charlotte (140 points) – NC A&T, Eastern Michigan, Kansas State, Georgia State
The results look reasonable to me. Somewhat fittingly, MTSU has the toughest schedule. I was a little surprised to find that Marshall has the second hardest schedule. Charlotte having the easiest schedule seems appropriate, but I was really surprised to find that WKU is playing the sixth hardest schedule in the East.
I was going to do the full conference, but doing the East took a little more time than I intended. So -- I will do the West a little later.
Cheers!
RE: Who has the most difficult OOC Schedule? - techdawg28 - 08-06-2017 12:48 PM
Is home vs away taken into account?
RE: Who has the most difficult OOC Schedule? - Ole Blue - 08-06-2017 12:54 PM
A team each from SEC, ACC, and Big 10... yep, it's gonna be tough!
RE: Who has the most difficult OOC Schedule? - ODU AGGIE - 08-06-2017 01:39 PM
(08-06-2017 12:48 PM)techdawg28 Wrote: Is home vs away taken into account?
No -- for two reasons, I suppose. One, not sure how I would have quantified that. Two, I didn't even think about it.
RE: Who has the most difficult OOC Schedule? - Smaug - 08-06-2017 01:45 PM
UAB:
Alabama A&M
@Ball State
Coastal Carolina
@Florida
RE: Who has the most difficult OOC Schedule? - Dawgxas - 08-06-2017 01:48 PM
Easy OOC schedule most are winnable, only really solid program is Wisconsin. Kansas State and Virginia Tech have had good programs also but have fallen off lately.
RE: Who has the most difficult OOC Schedule? - WKUApollo - 08-06-2017 01:48 PM
A bit of a reprieve for WKU this year. In the last 7 years we've played Alabama twice, LSU, Nebraska, Tennessee. This will be an unusual year. Hope we don't embarrass ourselves with an easier schedule.
RE: Who has the most difficult OOC Schedule? - Dawgxas - 08-06-2017 01:49 PM
(08-06-2017 12:54 PM)Ole Blue Wrote: A team each from SEC, ACC, and Big 10... yep, it's gonna be tough!
Weak P5 teams, that's a perfect P5 schedule
RE: Who has the most difficult OOC Schedule? - Lizard Breath - 08-06-2017 02:06 PM
UTSA- Houston, Baylor, Texas St & FCS team
RE: Who has the most difficult OOC Schedule? - ODU AGGIE - 08-06-2017 03:30 PM
Ok, here's the West and the consolidated conference rankings. As we all knew they would, Rice leads the West (and the conference), and it's not even close. UTSA comes in at number two in the West, and as we anticipated and as is appropriate, UAB has the least difficult schedule in the West. A little surprisingly, Charlotte has the overall easiest OOC schedule, with UAB sliding in just ahead of them and tied with WKU. I will repeat the East rankings here just so you can see everything all together.
1. Middle Tennessee (251 points) – Vanderbilt, Minnesota, Syracuse, Bowling Green
2. Marshall (239 points) – Miami (Ohio), NC State, Kent State, Cincinnati
3. Old Dominion (222 points) – Albany, North Carolina, Virginia Tech, UMass
4. Florida International (194 points) – Alcorn State, Central Florida, Indiana, Tulane
5. Florida Atlantic (183 points) – Bethune-Cookman, Navy, Wisconsin, Buffalo
6. Western Kentucky (157 points) – Eastern Kentucky, Ball State, Illinois, Vanderbilt
7. Charlotte (140 points) – NC A&T, Eastern Michigan, Kansas State, Georgia State
1. Rice (345 points) – Stanford, Houston, Pitt, Army
2. UTEP (276 points) - Oklahoma, Arizona, New Mexico State, Army
3. Southern Miss (216 points) – Southern, Kentucky, LA-Monroe, Tennessee
4. LA Tech (211 points) – Northwestern State, South Alabama, Mississippi State, South Carolina
5. North Texas (201 points) – SMU, Lamar, Iowa, Army
6. UTSA (179 points) – Southern, Texas State, Baylor, Houston
7. UAB (157 points) – Alabama A&M, Ball State, Coastal Carolina, Florida
1. Rice (345 points) – Stanford, Houston, Pitt, Army
2. UTEP (276 points) - Oklahoma, Arizona, New Mexico State, Army
3. Middle Tennessee (251 points) – Vanderbilt, Minnesota, Syracuse, Bowling Green
4. Marshall (239 points) – Miami (Ohio), NC State, Kent State, Cincinnati
5. Old Dominion (222 points) – Albany, North Carolina, Virginia Tech, UMass
6. Southern Miss (216 points) – Southern, Kentucky, LA-Monroe, Tennessee
7. LA Tech (211 points) – Northwestern State, South Alabama, Mississippi State, South Carolina
8. North Texas (201 points) – SMU, Lamar, Iowa, Army
9. Florida International (194 points) – Alcorn State, Central Florida, Indiana, Tulane
10. Florida Atlantic (183) – Bethune-Cookman, Navy, Wisconsin, Buffalo
11. UTSA (179 points) – Southern, Texas State, Baylor, Houston
12. Western Kentucky (157) – Eastern Kentucky, Ball State, Illinois, Vanderbilt
13. UAB (157 points) – Alabama A&M, Ball State, Coastal Carolina, Florida
14. Charlotte (140) – NC A&T, Eastern Michigan, Kansas State, Georgia State
RE: Who has the most difficult OOC Schedule? - JCMiner - 08-06-2017 03:53 PM
(08-06-2017 03:30 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote: Ok, here's the West and the consolidated conference rankings. As we all knew they would, Rice leads the West (and the conference), and it's not even close. UTSA comes in at number two in the West, and as we anticipated and as is appropriate, UAB has the least difficult schedule in the West. A little surprisingly, Charlotte has the overall easiest OOC schedule, with UAB sliding in just ahead of them and tied with WKU. I will repeat the West rankings here just so you can see everything all together.
1. Middle Tennessee (251 points) – Vanderbilt, Minnesota, Syracuse, Bowling Green
2. Marshall (239 points) – Miami (Ohio), NC State, Kent State, Cincinnati
3. Old Dominion (222 points) – Albany, North Carolina, Virginia Tech, UMass
4. Florida International (194 points) – Alcorn State, Central Florida, Indiana, Tulane
5. Florida Atlantic (183 points) – Bethune-Cookman, Navy, Wisconsin, Buffalo
6. Western Kentucky (157 points) – Eastern Kentucky, Ball State, Illinois, Vanderbilt
7. Charlotte (140 points) – NC A&T, Eastern Michigan, Kansas State, Georgia State
1. Rice (345 points) – Stanford, Houston, Pitt, Army
2. UTEP (276 points) - Oklahoma, Arizona, New Mexico State, Army
3. Southern Miss (216 points) – Southern, Kentucky, LA-Monroe, Tennessee
4. LA Tech (211 points) – Northwestern State, South Alabama, Mississippi State, South Carolina
5. North Texas (201 points) – SMU, Lamar, Iowa, Army
6. UTSA (179 points) – Southern, Texas State, Baylor, Houston
7. UAB (157 points) – Alabama A&M, Ball State, Coastal Carolina, Florida
1. Rice (345 points) – Stanford, Houston, Pitt, Army
2. UTEP (276 points) - Oklahoma, Arizona, New Mexico State, Army
3. Middle Tennessee (251 points) – Vanderbilt, Minnesota, Syracuse, Bowling Green
4. Marshall (239 points) – Miami (Ohio), NC State, Kent State, Cincinnati
5. Old Dominion (222 points) – Albany, North Carolina, Virginia Tech, UMass
6. Southern Miss (216 points) – Southern, Kentucky, LA-Monroe, Tennessee
7. LA Tech (211 points) – Northwestern State, South Alabama, Mississippi State, South Carolina
8. North Texas (201 points) – SMU, Lamar, Iowa, Army
9. Florida International (194 points) – Alcorn State, Central Florida, Indiana, Tulane
10. Florida Atlantic (183) – Bethune-Cookman, Navy, Wisconsin, Buffalo
11. UTSA (179 points) – Southern, Texas State, Baylor, Houston
12. Western Kentucky (157) – Eastern Kentucky, Ball State, Illinois, Vanderbilt
13. UAB (157 points) – Alabama A&M, Ball State, Coastal Carolina, Florida
14. Charlotte (140) – NC A&T, Eastern Michigan, Kansas State, Georgia State
I'm offended.
RE: Who has the most difficult OOC Schedule? - Fort Bend Owl - 08-06-2017 05:52 PM
I really hadn't paid much attention to OOC schedules for everyone else, but I've got to say, there are a lot of shockingly easy schedules. Only the top 4 teams on the list play 4 FBS teams with everyone else playing 1 FCS team? I mean this is a touch non-conference schedule for Rice, but it's nowhere near as tough as they've had in years past I'd say.
RE: Who has the most difficult OOC Schedule? - BlueraiderJT - 08-07-2017 08:49 AM
We should have the toughest OOC schedule for the next 2 years after this season too.
2018 - @Vandy, @Georgia and @Kentucky
2019 - @Iowa, @Michigan and Duke at home
We'll be playing 3 P5's per year for the foreseeable future and I'm very happy about it.
RE: Who has the most difficult OOC Schedule? - ODU Oldtimer - 08-07-2017 09:33 AM
(08-06-2017 03:30 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote: Ok, here's the West and the consolidated conference rankings. As we all knew they would, Rice leads the West (and the conference), and it's not even close. UTSA comes in at number two in the West, and as we anticipated and as is appropriate, UAB has the least difficult schedule in the West. A little surprisingly, Charlotte has the overall easiest OOC schedule, with UAB sliding in just ahead of them and tied with WKU. I will repeat the East rankings here just so you can see everything all together.
1. Middle Tennessee (251 points) – Vanderbilt, Minnesota, Syracuse, Bowling Green
2. Marshall (239 points) – Miami (Ohio), NC State, Kent State, Cincinnati
3. Old Dominion (222 points) – Albany, North Carolina, Virginia Tech, UMass
4. Florida International (194 points) – Alcorn State, Central Florida, Indiana, Tulane
5. Florida Atlantic (183 points) – Bethune-Cookman, Navy, Wisconsin, Buffalo
6. Western Kentucky (157 points) – Eastern Kentucky, Ball State, Illinois, Vanderbilt
7. Charlotte (140 points) – NC A&T, Eastern Michigan, Kansas State, Georgia State
1. Rice (345 points) – Stanford, Houston, Pitt, Army
2. UTEP (276 points) - Oklahoma, Arizona, New Mexico State, Army
3. Southern Miss (216 points) – Southern, Kentucky, LA-Monroe, Tennessee
4. LA Tech (211 points) – Northwestern State, South Alabama, Mississippi State, South Carolina
5. North Texas (201 points) – SMU, Lamar, Iowa, Army
6. UTSA (179 points) – Southern, Texas State, Baylor, Houston
7. UAB (157 points) – Alabama A&M, Ball State, Coastal Carolina, Florida
1. Rice (345 points) – Stanford, Houston, Pitt, Army
2. UTEP (276 points) - Oklahoma, Arizona, New Mexico State, Army
3. Middle Tennessee (251 points) – Vanderbilt, Minnesota, Syracuse, Bowling Green
4. Marshall (239 points) – Miami (Ohio), NC State, Kent State, Cincinnati
5. Old Dominion (222 points) – Albany, North Carolina, Virginia Tech, UMass
6. Southern Miss (216 points) – Southern, Kentucky, LA-Monroe, Tennessee
7. LA Tech (211 points) – Northwestern State, South Alabama, Mississippi State, South Carolina
8. North Texas (201 points) – SMU, Lamar, Iowa, Army
9. Florida International (194 points) – Alcorn State, Central Florida, Indiana, Tulane
10. Florida Atlantic (183) – Bethune-Cookman, Navy, Wisconsin, Buffalo
11. UTSA (179 points) – Southern, Texas State, Baylor, Houston
12. Western Kentucky (157) – Eastern Kentucky, Ball State, Illinois, Vanderbilt
13. UAB (157 points) – Alabama A&M, Ball State, Coastal Carolina, Florida
14. Charlotte (140) – NC A&T, Eastern Michigan, Kansas State, Georgia State
Wow, thanks for the research and post. Good information and I think it is right on the money for what this years teams appear to be for 2017. I hope everyone in the conference will shock the rest of the football world and we have some major upsets and win those marquee games that will move the conference perception even further forward in a positive light.
I would love for ODU to have two big upsets this year or at least accomplish another first for our young program. A POWER FIVE CONFERENCE win .......Go Monarchs
RE: Who has the most difficult OOC Schedule? - THUNDERStruck73 - 08-07-2017 10:19 AM
I'm excited because I thing UAB has a decent shot at 3-1... That would be awesome!
RE: Who has the most difficult OOC Schedule? - Volkmar - 08-07-2017 11:17 AM
I'm glad UTSA is on the lower end of the spectrum for a change this season. We've faced gauntlets in recent years...
2016
Colorado State
Arizona State
Texas A&M
Alabama St.
2015
Arizona
Kansas State
Oklahoma State
Colorado State
2014
Houston
Arizona
Oklahoma State
New Mexico
2013
Oklahoma State
Arizona
Houston
New Mexico
We'll have another tough one in 2018 though...
Arizona State
Baylor
Kansas State
Texas State
RE: Who has the most difficult OOC Schedule? - ODU AGGIE - 08-07-2017 02:05 PM
(08-07-2017 11:17 AM)Volkmar Wrote: I'm glad UTSA is on the lower end of the spectrum for a change this season. We've faced gauntlets in recent years...
2016
Colorado State
Arizona State
Texas A&M
Alabama St.
2015
Arizona
Kansas State
Oklahoma State
Colorado State
2014
Houston
Arizona
Oklahoma State
New Mexico
2013
Oklahoma State
Arizona
Houston
New Mexico
We'll have another tough one in 2018 though...
Arizona State
Baylor
Kansas State
Texas State
Next year you guys should be playing Oklahoma State instead of Baylor. Then you could win a "State" championship!
RE: Who has the most difficult OOC Schedule? - WKUFan518 - 08-07-2017 02:18 PM
(08-07-2017 08:49 AM)BlueraiderJT Wrote: We should have the toughest OOC schedule for the next 2 years after this season too.
2018 - @Vandy, @Georgia and @Kentucky
2019 - @Iowa, @Michigan and Duke at home
We'll be playing 3 P5's per year for the foreseeable future and I'm very happy about it.
Man you guys low on cash?
RE: Who has the most difficult OOC Schedule? - cb4029 - 08-07-2017 02:25 PM
I'm glad two Western schools decided to soften themselves up before we get to them.
I like some of the middle of the pack schedules with soft P5 competition. Games should be competitive without as much wear and tear on the teams.
RE: Who has the most difficult OOC Schedule? - TribeNiner - 08-07-2017 02:45 PM
Charlotte's future schedules from what I can find (someone feel free to correct me if there have been changes):
2018:
Fordham
Appy St
@UMass
@Tennessee
2019:
Gardner Webb
@Appy St
UMass
@Clemson
2020:
@Tennessee
Norfolk St
@Duke
Georgia State
2021:
Duke
@Georgia State
@Illinois
2022:
Maryland
@Georgia State
@Indiana
2023:
@Maryland
Georgia State
@Indiana
2024:
@UNC-CHeat
2025:
UNC-CHeat
Not sure about the FCS hate given one win over FCS counts toward bowl eligibility (and just ask Virginia how it felt to have Richmond put their backups in last year); but, your method, your rules. For those seasons where we have a full slate (using this year's points), we still have an FCS game each year, so we'd be at 189 (2018), 202 (2019), and 198 (2020). The methodology seems deceiving considering we're playing Tennessee twice, Duke, and Clemson in that three year span.