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BIGGER IS BETTER!!!! - RutgersGuy - 07-10-2017 08:14 PM
I was toying with this idea in another thread and I really think it's the future of FBS FB.
All conferences expand to 20 teams. A Power 4 and a Group of 4.
Expand the playoff to 10 teams with the 4 P4 champs getting an auto-bid along with the top 2 G4 champs and 2 wild cards. The top 2 teams get a bye in the first round and the first round is at the higher seeded teams home field then the semi's and finals are at neutral sites.
The regular season expands to 13 games and every conference plays 10 conference games.
No more games allowed against the FCS. The expanded conferences has enough teams where it's no longer needed.
Behold the expanded conferences! *Edited for teams I forgot to add*
B1G:
East- PSU, Rutgers, Maryland, UConn, Virginia
West- Texas, OU, KU, Nebraska, Iowa
South- Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Notre Dame, Ohio State
North- Minny, Wisc, NW, Michigan, MSU
SEC:
East- UF, FSU, UGA, USC, UNC
West- A&M, TCU, Arkansas, OSU, Mizzou
South- Bama, Auburn, Miss St, Ole Miss, LSU
North- WVU, Tennessee, Vandy, UK, VT
Pac-20:
East- Colorado, KSU, ISU, Utah, BYU
West- Cal, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Hawaii
South- ASU, UA, T Tech, Houston, UNLV
North- Oregon, OSU, Washington, WSU, Boise St.
ACC:
East- NC St, Duke, WF, ECU, Navy
West- Louisville, Cincy, Memphis, Baylor, SMU
South- Miami, GT, Clemson, UCF, USF
North- BC, Pitt, Cuse, Temple, Army
AAC:
East- James Madison, ODU, Richmond, Charolette, App State
West- Tulsa, UTSA, North Texas, Rice, Texas State
South- Tulane, USM, UAB, FIU, FAU
North- Marshall, WKU, Middle Tenn, Missouri St, Chattanooga
MWC:
East- Air Force, Wyoming, Utah State, Weber St, Colorado St
West- San Diego St, Fresno, San Jose, Cal Poly, San Diego
South- New Mexico, New Mexico St, UTEP, Northern Arizona, Nevada
North- Idaho, Eastern Washington, Montana, Portland, Montana St
CUSA:
East- Wofford, William & Mary, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, Eastern Kentucky
West- Troy, So. Alabama, Jacksonville St, Louisiana Monroe, Louisiana Lafayette
South- Georgia St, Georgia Southern, Citadel, Western Carolina, Charleston Southern
North- Arkansas State, Central Arkansas, La Tech, Sam Houston, Stephen F Austin
MAC:
East- Buffalo, UMass, Delaware, New Hampshire, Maine
West- South Dakota State, North Dakota State, Northern Iowa, N. Illinois, Ball State
South- Youngstown, Kent, Miami, Ohio, Akron
North- CMU, WMU, EMU, Toledo, Bowling Green
RE: BIGGER IS BETTER!!!! - Dr. Isaly von Yinzer - 07-10-2017 08:14 PM
Please don't tell my wife. Also, that plan stinks.
RE: BIGGER IS BETTER!!!! - Kittonhead - 07-10-2017 08:25 PM
200 schools in FBS.
RE: BIGGER IS BETTER!!!! - RutgersGuy - 07-10-2017 08:44 PM
(07-10-2017 08:25 PM)Kittonhead Wrote: 200 schools in FBS.
20x8=160
Why do people hate more FB?
RE: BIGGER IS BETTER!!!! - Nerdlinger - 07-10-2017 09:14 PM
Now do one but keep the ACC from being raided.
RE: BIGGER IS BETTER!!!! - spenser - 07-10-2017 09:24 PM
Switch Tulane and Baylor around, ACC wants the Academics and no more scandals
(07-10-2017 08:14 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote: I was toying with this idea in another thread and I really think it's the future of FBS FB.
All conferences expand to 20 teams. A Power 4 and a Group of 4.
Expand the playoff to 10 teams with the 4 P4 champs getting an auto-bid along with the top 2 G4 champs and 2 wild cards. The top 2 teams get a bye in the first round and the first round is at the higher seeded teams home field then the semi's and finals are at neutral sites.
The regular season expands to 13 games and every conference plays 10 conference games.
No more games allowed against the FCS. The expanded conferences has enough teams where it's no longer needed.
Behold the expanded conferences!
B1G:
East- PSU, Rutgers, Maryland, UConn, Virginia
West- Texas, OU, KU, Nebraska, Iowa
South- Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Notre Dame, Ohio State
North- Minny, Wisc, NW, Michigan, MSU
SEC:
East- UF, FSU, UGA, USC, UNC
West- A&M, TCU, Arkansas, OSU, Mizzou
South- Bama, Auburn, Miss St, Ole Miss, LSU
North- WVU, Tennessee, Vandy, UK, VT
Pac-20:
East- Colorado, KSU, ISU, Utah, BYU
West- Cal, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Hawaii
South- ASU, UA, T Tech, Houston, UNLV
North- Oregon, OSU, Washington, WSU, Boise St.
ACC:
East- NC St, Duke, WF, ECU, Navy
West- Louisville, Cincy, Memphis, Baylor, SMU
South- Miami, GT, Clemson, UCF, USF
North- BC, Pitt, Cuse, Temple, Army
AAC:
East- James Madison, ODU, Richmond, Charolette, App State
West- Tulsa, UTSA, North Texas, Rice, Texas State
South- Tulane, USM, UAB, FIU, FAU
North- Marshall, WKU, Middle Tenn, Missouri St, Chattanooga
MWC:
East- Air Force, Wyoming, Utah State, Weber St, Northern Colorado
West- San Diego St, Fresno, San Jose, Cal Poly, San Diego
South- New Mexico, New Mexico St, UTEP, Northern Arizona, Nevada
North- Idaho, Eastern Washington, Montana, Portland, Montana St
CUSA:
East- Wofford, William & Mary, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, Eastern Kentucky
West- Troy, Alabama St, Jacksonville St, Louisiana Monroe, Louisiana Lafayette
South- Georgia St, Georgia Southern, Citadel, Western Carolina, Charleston Southern
North- Arkansas State, Central Arkansas, La Tech, Sam Houston, Stephen F Austin
MAC:
East- Buffalo, UMass, Delaware, New Hampshire, Maine
West- South Dakota State, North Dakota State, Northern Iowa, N. Illinois, Illinois St
South- Youngstown, Kent, Miami, Ohio, Akron
North- CMU, WMU, EMU, Toledo, Bowling Green
RE: BIGGER IS BETTER!!!! - BalancedManSPE - 07-10-2017 09:31 PM
(07-10-2017 08:14 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote: B1G:
East- PSU, Rutgers, Maryland, UConn, Virginia
West- Texas, OU, KU, Nebraska, Iowa
South- Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Notre Dame, Ohio State
North- Minny, Wisc, NW, Michigan, MSU
lol. Which one of these schools looks out of place?
Seriously, if Notre Dame, Texas, OU, etc, were even in the least interested in the B1G, they would've been there long before Rutgers.
RE: BIGGER IS BETTER!!!! - AppfanInCAAland - 07-10-2017 10:09 PM
There is so much silliness in that 160 team lineup, particularly at your G4 level. Rather going through it all, I will ask why the non-scholarship San Deigo be in FBS? And no part of Wofford, Charleston Southern, or Western Carolina belongs in FBS. And why would one of the oldest continuous rivalries in football (Richmond and W&M) be in different conferences were they both to go FBS? I could go on, what i wont.
BIGGER IS BETTER!!!! - owl at the moon - 07-10-2017 10:34 PM
I thought I'd hate it, but I kind of like it.
Maybe you had me with "two G4 champs in the playoff".
RE: BIGGER IS BETTER!!!! - ChrisLords - 07-10-2017 11:08 PM
I like the Idea of the SEC -2 and ACC -2 merging; and the B1G -2 and Pac 12 merging; and having 2 premiere leagues and 2 relegation leagues. You could even break away from the NCAA for football.
Maybe even make it SEC + 2, ACC +2, B1G +2 and Pac 16.
RE: BIGGER IS BETTER!!!! - SouthEastAlaska - 07-10-2017 11:20 PM
4×18=72 Total!
that's the final solution you were looking for
RE: BIGGER IS BETTER!!!! - TexanMark - 07-10-2017 11:48 PM
(07-10-2017 11:20 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote: 4×18=72 Total!
that's the final solution you were looking for
Anywhere from 72-80 in my fantasy. The rest go to a blend of G5/FCS superstars. The crappy FCS drop to D2 or D3.
RE: BIGGER IS BETTER!!!! - DavidSt - 07-11-2017 12:28 AM
Lamar, Stony Brook, Delaware St, Wichita State, Long Beach State and North Alabama all mentioned FBS. So have UTRGV.
BIGGER IS BETTER!!!! - JHS55 - 07-11-2017 03:18 AM
Iam just shocked that an actual rice owl fan posted on here
RE: BIGGER IS BETTER!!!! - goodknightfl - 07-11-2017 07:28 AM
(07-10-2017 11:08 PM)ChrisLords Wrote: Maybe even make it SEC + 2, ACC +2, B1G +2 and Pac 16.
What a novel idea..
RE: BIGGER IS BETTER!!!! - lew240z - 07-11-2017 08:10 AM
So, Northern Colorado replaces Colorado State in the Mountain West? Don't be silly.
BIGGER IS BETTER!!!! - owl at the moon - 07-11-2017 09:07 AM
(07-11-2017 03:18 AM)JHS55 Wrote: Iam just shocked that an actual rice owl fan posted on here
Oh I pop on quite a bit... and there's more of us... so many realignment threads, so little time. We have a lot of drama on our own board to keep up with, too. My favorits threads here are the ones where Rice crops up (suggested by fans of other schools) as a P5 promotion candidate. That's a good goal but we still have a lot of boxes we need to check in terms of, yup, fan and community support.
Our best shot at getting back up to the "top tier" might be sneaking in to a 80-team Power Group structure like the one suggested here. There are some other contrived scenarios where it could happen, too.
The OP is on record as saying it'll never happen - and he may well be right. I haven't given up on hoping for it, and my personal opinion is that the AD is doing the right things to put us in a position to be in those conversations in 5, 10 years.
But if you told me today we could play in the AAC and have a defined path to a playoff, I'd take that in a second. Even if the AAC in this scenario looks a lot like C-USA does today.
I also think the idea of an 18 or 20 team conference could work well, especially if the teams have something in common and the conference has an identity.
RE: BIGGER IS BETTER!!!! - Nerdlinger - 07-11-2017 09:30 AM
(07-11-2017 08:10 AM)lew240z Wrote: So, Northern Colorado replaces Colorado State in the Mountain West? Don't be silly.
Colorado State is missing altogether. Same goes for Ball State and South Alabama.
RE: BIGGER IS BETTER!!!! - SouthEastAlaska - 07-11-2017 11:34 AM
(07-10-2017 11:48 PM)TexanMark Wrote:(07-10-2017 11:20 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote: 4×18=72 Total!
that's the final solution you were looking for
Anywhere from 72-80 in my fantasy. The rest go to a blend of G5/FCS superstars. The crappy FCS drop to D2 or D3.
I'm not sure it's exactly what I want but I believe it will be the end result of the network realignment game.
RE: BIGGER IS BETTER!!!! - Wolfman - 07-11-2017 11:50 AM
No matter how many exclamation marks you use, bigger is not better. With 14 teams schools are already complaining about not seeing each other enough. UNC scheduled Wake Forest OOC for football. UNC and NCSU scheduled an OOC baseball game (it got rained out).
A better name for this plan is P2/G2/D2.
P2 (B1G, SEC)
G2 (ACC, PAC)
D2 (the rest)