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NMSU gets a game a BYU - msm96wolf - 05-25-2017 05:17 PM
http://www.fbschedules.com/2017/05/byu-adds-new-mexico-state-2018-football-schedule/
Hopefully they can get a return game in the future to help them as an independent.
RE: NMSU gets a game a BYU - dbackjon - 05-25-2017 05:36 PM
Good match up.
RE: NMSU gets a game a BYU - dbackjon - 05-25-2017 05:40 PM
Related, reading the article:
BYU 2018 Schedule
Home:
California
McNeese State
Utah State
Northern Illinois
New Mexico State
Hawai'i
Road:
Arizona
Wisconsin
Washington
Boise State
UMass
Utah
Road schedule is good, but man that is an awful home schedule
RE: NMSU gets a game a BYU - billybobby777 - 05-25-2017 05:51 PM
(05-25-2017 05:40 PM)dbackjon Wrote: Related, reading the article:
BYU 2018 Schedule
Home:
California
McNeese State
Utah State
Northern Illinois
New Mexico State
Road:
Arizona
Wisconsin
Washington
Boise State
UMass
Utah
Road schedule is good, but man that is an awful home schedule
Wow...that is an awful home schedule. So CAL and Utah St are their best home games? They have a home game contract with espn, but there's not really any ESPN quality games on that game schedule...maybe a Friday night game with Utah St on ESPN2? Just join the AAC BYU. We are P6!
RE: NMSU gets a game a BYU - Captain Bearcat - 05-25-2017 06:00 PM
(05-25-2017 05:40 PM)dbackjon Wrote: Related, reading the article:
BYU 2018 Schedule
Home:
California
McNeese State
Utah State
Northern Illinois
New Mexico State
Road:
Arizona
Wisconsin
Washington
Boise State
UMass
Utah
Road schedule is good, but man that is an awful home schedule
2019 and 2020 are a little better, but they're overly heavy on road games. And if you think 2018's schedule is bad, look at 2022:
Road:
Utah
Oregon
Boise
Liberty
Stanford
Home:
USF
Baylor
BYU bought a lot of their premier home games with 2-for-1s the past few years. It's starting to catch up to them.
RE: NMSU gets a game a BYU - billybobby777 - 05-25-2017 06:28 PM
(05-25-2017 06:00 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:(05-25-2017 05:40 PM)dbackjon Wrote: Related, reading the article:
BYU 2018 Schedule
Home:
California
McNeese State
Utah State
Northern Illinois
New Mexico State
Road:
Arizona
Wisconsin
Washington
Boise State
UMass
Utah
Road schedule is good, but man that is an awful home schedule
2019 and 2020 are a little better, but they're overly heavy on road games. And if you think 2018's schedule is bad, look at 2022:
Road:
Utah
Oregon
Boise
Liberty
Stanford
Home:
USF
Baylor
BYU bought a lot of their premier home games with 2-for-1s the past few years. It's starting to catch up to them.
In 2022, Baylor might be a CUSA team. At least they get USF.
RE: NMSU gets a game a BYU - ManleyPointer - 05-25-2017 07:11 PM
(05-25-2017 05:40 PM)dbackjon Wrote: Related, reading the article:
BYU 2018 Schedule
Home:
California
McNeese State
Utah State
Northern Illinois
New Mexico State
Road:
Arizona
Wisconsin
Washington
Boise State
UMass
Utah
Road schedule is good, but man that is an awful home schedule
Also have Hawaii at home. But yeah, that's still a pretty rough home slate.
RE: NMSU gets a game a BYU - dbackjon - 05-25-2017 07:20 PM
(05-25-2017 07:11 PM)ManleyPointer Wrote:(05-25-2017 05:40 PM)dbackjon Wrote: Related, reading the article:
BYU 2018 Schedule
Home:
California
McNeese State
Utah State
Northern Illinois
New Mexico State
Road:
Arizona
Wisconsin
Washington
Boise State
UMass
Utah
Road schedule is good, but man that is an awful home schedule
Also have Hawaii at home. But yeah, that's still a pretty rough home slate.
I see that now - FBS Schedules doesn't list it yet, but BYU does.
Fixed
RE: NMSU gets a game a BYU - YNot - 05-25-2017 07:22 PM
(05-25-2017 06:00 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: 2019 and 2020 are a little better, but they're overly heavy on road games. And if you think 2018's schedule is bad, look at 2022:
No doubt 2018 is a lame home schedule, but would it be any better in the MWC? Frankly, it's pretty similar to what BYU saw pre-2011 in the WAC and MWC every other year (when the Utah game was in SLC).
Utah St., Hawaii, NIU (as good as many MWC games) and P5 Cal.
But, to say that 2019 and 2020 are a *little better* makes obvious troll obvious.
2019: Utah, USC, Washington, Boise St.
2020: Michigan St., Missouri, SDSU, Utah St.
2021: Utah, Arizona St., Virginia, Boise St. (and Arizona in Vegas - part of BYU's home package)
I'll take a stinker schedule every once in a while if it means more frequent schedules like 2019, 2020, and 2021 - see also- 2023 and 2025:
- Tennessee, Stanford, Boise St. (and likely Utah)
- Stanford, Minnesota, Virginia, (and likely Utah)
And, tons of quality road games for BYU's national fan base, where fans and alumni throughout the country actually attend games - go ask Arizona, WVU, Cincinnati, Houston, etc. how many BYU fans were at their games.
RE: NMSU gets a game a BYU - YNot - 05-25-2017 07:23 PM
(05-25-2017 05:17 PM)msm96wolf Wrote: http://www.fbschedules.com/2017/05/byu-adds-new-mexico-state-2018-football-schedule/
Hopefully they can get a return game in the future to help them as an independent.
BYU is paying NMSU a $700K guarantee, so I doubt there is a return game. Though, I could see essentially a 2-for-1, with a H-H announced at some time later.
RE: NMSU gets a game a BYU - dbackjon - 05-25-2017 07:29 PM
(05-25-2017 07:22 PM)YNot Wrote:(05-25-2017 06:00 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: 2019 and 2020 are a little better, but they're overly heavy on road games. And if you think 2018's schedule is bad, look at 2022:
No doubt 2018 is a lame home schedule, but would it be any better in the MWC? Frankly, it's pretty similar to what BYU saw pre-2011 in the WAC and MWC every other year (when the Utah game was in SLC).
Utah St., Hawaii, NIU (as good as many MWC games) and P5 Cal.
But, to say that 2019 and 2020 are a *little better* makes obvious troll obvious.
2019: Utah, USC, Washington, Boise St.
2020: Michigan St., Missouri, SDSU, Utah St.
2021: Utah, Arizona St., Virginia, Boise St. (and Arizona in Vegas - part of BYU's home package)
I'll take a stinker schedule every once in a while if it means more frequent schedules like 2019, 2020, and 2021 - see also- 2023 and 2025:
- Tennessee, Stanford, Boise St. (and likely Utah)
- Stanford, Minnesota, Virginia, (and likely Utah)
And, tons of quality road games for BYU's national fan base, where fans and alumni throughout the country actually attend games - go ask Arizona, WVU, Cincinnati, Houston, etc. how many BYU fans were at their games.
The 17 Home Schedule is good, with Utah, Boise and Wisconsin. As long as you can keep the series with Utah, that will anchor every other season.
NMSU gets a game a BYU - Jjoey52 - 05-25-2017 08:31 PM
BYU is getting desperate, they need a conference, some schools in MWC do not want them back due to their arrogance and dirty play, though in 2016 there were no major incidents for the first time in along time. The LGBT issue may have kept them out of the B12, not sure how the AAC and MWC would handle that, as the agenda pushers will be on that.
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RE: NMSU gets a game a BYU - billybobby777 - 05-25-2017 08:34 PM
(05-25-2017 08:31 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote: BYU is getting desperate, they need a conference, some schools in MWC do not want them back due to their arrogance and dirty play, though in 2016 there were no major incidents for the first time in along time. The LGBT issue may have kept them out of the B12, not sure how the AAC and MWC would handle that, as the agenda pushers will be on that.
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I'm kind of surprised an Iowa St fan would bring up that subject.....
RE: NMSU gets a game a BYU - Captain Bearcat - 05-25-2017 08:39 PM
(05-25-2017 07:22 PM)YNot Wrote:(05-25-2017 06:00 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: 2019 and 2020 are a little better, but they're overly heavy on road games. And if you think 2018's schedule is bad, look at 2022:
No doubt 2018 is a lame home schedule, but would it be any better in the MWC? Frankly, it's pretty similar to what BYU saw pre-2011 in the WAC and MWC every other year (when the Utah game was in SLC).
Utah St., Hawaii, NIU (as good as many MWC games) and P5 Cal.
But, to say that 2019 and 2020 are a *little better* makes obvious troll obvious.
2019: Utah, USC, Washington, Boise St.
2020: Michigan St., Missouri, SDSU, Utah St.
2021: Utah, Arizona St., Virginia, Boise St. (and Arizona in Vegas - part of BYU's home package)
I'll take a stinker schedule every once in a while if it means more frequent schedules like 2019, 2020, and 2021 - see also- 2023 and 2025:
- Tennessee, Stanford, Boise St. (and likely Utah)
- Stanford, Minnesota, Virginia, (and likely Utah)
And, tons of quality road games for BYU's national fan base, where fans and alumni throughout the country actually attend games - go ask Arizona, WVU, Cincinnati, Houston, etc. how many BYU fans were at their games.
You quoted the most insignificant part of my post. The point behind that sentence is that the 2019-20-21 schedules are pretty much full and they're already short on home games.
Maybe you'll take a "stinker schedule every once in a while," but my guess is that most casual fans will not. That will impact the season ticket base.
And all that travel takes a big toll on your players - how good will they perform when they've traveled cross-country 3 weekends in a row and they're facing a fresh team that hasn't left its state in a month? It will impact the win-loss record, without a doubt.
RE: NMSU gets a game a BYU - billybobby777 - 05-25-2017 08:40 PM
(05-25-2017 07:22 PM)YNot Wrote:(05-25-2017 06:00 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: 2019 and 2020 are a little better, but they're overly heavy on road games. And if you think 2018's schedule is bad, look at 2022:
No doubt 2018 is a lame home schedule, but would it be any better in the MWC? Frankly, it's pretty similar to what BYU saw pre-2011 in the WAC and MWC every other year (when the Utah game was in SLC).
Utah St., Hawaii, NIU (as good as many MWC games) and P5 Cal.
But, to say that 2019 and 2020 are a *little better* makes obvious troll obvious.
2019: Utah, USC, Washington, Boise St.
2020: Michigan St., Missouri, SDSU, Utah St.
2021: Utah, Arizona St., Virginia, Boise St. (and Arizona in Vegas - part of BYU's home package)
I'll take a stinker schedule every once in a while if it means more frequent schedules like 2019, 2020, and 2021 - see also- 2023 and 2025:
- Tennessee, Stanford, Boise St. (and likely Utah)
- Stanford, Minnesota, Virginia, (and likely Utah)
And, tons of quality road games for BYU's national fan base, where fans and alumni throughout the country actually attend games - go ask Arizona, WVU, Cincinnati, Houston, etc. how many BYU fans were at their games.
I sure hope you guys bring a ton of fans to Greenville this year. I think you'll be very surprised at how big time ECU home games are. A lot of the posters on here bash ECU but they've never actually been to a home game in Greenville. ECU home games are much more intense then many PAC and ACC home games. I'm one of the few who's been to a BYU game and an ECU game.
RE: NMSU gets a game a BYU - dbackjon - 05-25-2017 08:44 PM
(05-25-2017 08:34 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:(05-25-2017 08:31 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote: BYU is getting desperate, they need a conference, some schools in MWC do not want them back due to their arrogance and dirty play, though in 2016 there were no major incidents for the first time in along time. The LGBT issue may have kept them out of the B12, not sure how the AAC and MWC would handle that, as the agenda pushers will be on that.
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I'm kind of surprised an Iowa St fan would bring up that subject.....
Idaho St
RE: NMSU gets a game a BYU - billybobby777 - 05-25-2017 08:47 PM
(05-25-2017 08:44 PM)dbackjon Wrote:(05-25-2017 08:34 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:(05-25-2017 08:31 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote: BYU is getting desperate, they need a conference, some schools in MWC do not want them back due to their arrogance and dirty play, though in 2016 there were no major incidents for the first time in along time. The LGBT issue may have kept them out of the B12, not sure how the AAC and MWC would handle that, as the agenda pushers will be on that.
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I'm kind of surprised an Iowa St fan would bring up that subject.....
Idaho St
Hahahaha....I thought ISU was Iowa St. ok, nevermind.
RE: NMSU gets a game a BYU - f1do - 05-25-2017 11:15 PM
(05-25-2017 08:39 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: You quoted the most insignificant part of my post. The point behind that sentence is that the 2019-20-21 schedules are pretty much full and they're already short on home games.I agree that the 2018 home schedule won't be as exciting as the years around it. What would really be a problem is a couple "down" home schedules in a row.
Maybe you'll take a "stinker schedule every once in a while," but my guess is that most casual fans will not. That will impact the season ticket base.
And all that travel takes a big toll on your players - how good will they perform when they've traveled cross-country 3 weekends in a row and they're facing a fresh team that hasn't left its state in a month? It will impact the win-loss record, without a doubt.
BYU has been fairly steady in attendance in recent years:
2014 - 57,141 avg with Houston, Virginia, Utah St, Nevada, UNLV, Savannah St
2015 - 58,532 avg with Boise St, UConn, East Carolina, Cincinnati, Wagner, Fresno St
2016 - 58,568 avg with UCLA, Toledo, Mississippi St, Southern Utah, UMass, Utah St
I don't think the worry of 3 "cross-country" weekends in a row is valid. It never happens. Here is a look at "cross-country" games since going indy (west coast games not counted as "cross-country"):
2011:
Sept 3: Ole Miss
Sep 10: Texas
Oct 28: TCU
Dec 3: Hawaii
2012:
Oct 20: Notre Dame
Oct 27: Georgia Tech
2013:
Aug 31: Virginia
Oct 19: Houston
Nov 9: Wisconsin
Nov 23: Notre Dame
2014:
Aug 29: UConn
Sep 6: Texas
Oct 9: UCF
Nov 1: Middle Tennessee St
2015:
Sept 5: Nebraska
Sep 26: Michigan
Nov 14: Missouri (in Kansas City)
2016:
Sept 24: West Virginia (in Landover)
Oct 8: Michigan State
Nov 5: Cincinnati
2017:
Sept 2: LSU (in Houston)
Oct 14: Mississippi St
Oct 21: East Carolina
Nov 25: Hawaii
2018:
Sept 15: Wisconsin
Nov 10: UMass
2019:
Sept 7: Tennessee
Sep 28: Toledo
Nov 23: UMass
2020:
Sep 26: Minnesota
Oct 24: Northern Illinois
2021:
Sept 25: USF
TBA: Baylor
2022:
Oct 22: Liberty
2014 was famously "cross-country" on the road games adding their bowl game in Miami to the ones listed above. But there has only been or is scheduled 4 back-to-back weekend "cross-country" games over that 12 year span and never a back-to-back-to-back.
RE: NMSU gets a game a BYU - DaSaintFan - 05-26-2017 07:44 AM
(05-25-2017 05:40 PM)dbackjon Wrote: Related, reading the article:
BYU 2018 Schedule
Home:
California
McNeese State
Utah State
Northern Illinois
New Mexico State
Hawai'i
Road:
Arizona
Wisconsin
Washington
Boise State
UMass
Utah
Road schedule is good, but man that is an awful home schedule
Agreed.. holy mackerel hat home schedule looks bad for BYU... When was the N.Ill matchup agreed to? When was the Utah State one agreed to?
Did someone at BYU pick them when they had their good years, and caught them on the down side? Or were those recent agreements?
RE: NMSU gets a game a BYU - TyBull - 05-26-2017 07:59 AM
Whatever the schedule, BYU will sell out their "Home" games.
They own Provo......
Only game in town.