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Division 1 Basketball Budget - Lopes87 - 04-03-2017 12:04 AM Snagged this off another CSNBBs forum. Men’s NCAA College Basketball Budgets 2015-16 ($$$ as per the US Department of Education) 1) University of Kentucky 18,910,412 2) University of Louisville 17,900,031 3) Duke University 17,890,632 4) Syracuse University 13,876,720 5) Indiana University-Bloomington 12,129,479 6) University of Arizona 11,761,006 7) Florida State University 11,730,040 8) University of Kansas 11,636,720 9) Georgetown University 11,343,826 10) Marquette University 11,308,266 11) Texas Christian University 11,256,999 12) University of Memphis 11,226,419 13) University of Oklahoma-Norman Campus 10,582,714 14) Michigan State University 10,432,557 15) The University of Texas at Austin 10,271,419 16) University of Wisconsin-Madison 9,834,445 17) University of Connecticut 9,516,308 18) Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University 9,478,661 19) Villanova University 9,447,198 20) West Virginia University 9,322,717 21) Texas A & M University-College Station 9,301,170 22) St John's University-New York 9,167,279 23) Ohio State University-Main Campus 9,142,079 24) University of California-Los Angeles 9,032,540 25) University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 8,920,109 26) Baylor University 8,837,724 27) Auburn University 8,821,985 28) University of Pittsburgh-Pittsburgh Campus 8,799,110 29) North Carolina State University at Raleigh 8,714,435 30) University of Arkansas 8,702,745 31) University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 8,667,111 32) University of California-Berkeley 8,658,628 33) University of Virginia-Main Campus 8,644,445 34) The University of Alabama 8,577,428 35) Vanderbilt University 8,181,142 36) University of Minnesota-Twin Cities 8,156,541 37) University of Utah 8,053,466 38) Providence College 7,907,240 39) University of Oregon 7,785,909 40) Wake Forest University 7,647,068 41) University of Maryland-College Park 7,622,707 42) Oklahoma State University-Main Campus 7,478,661 43) University of Cincinnati-Main Campus 7,421,986 44) Texas Tech University 7,348,405 45) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 7,341,910 46) University of Nebraska-Lincoln 7,329,386 47) Creighton University 7,264,599 48) Gonzaga University 7,261,657 49) Purdue University-Main Campus 7,243,691 50) University of Iowa 7,218,539 51) University of Mississippi 7,127,529 52) University of Miami 7,118,296 53) Southern Methodist University 7,086,547 54) University of South Carolina-Columbia 7,080,820 55) The University of Tennessee-Knoxville 6,989,935 56) Wichita State University 6,920,933 57) Iowa State University 6,885,453 58) University of Notre Dame 6,816,663 59) Kansas State University 6,772,157 60) Northwestern University 6,771,619 61) University of Florida 6,718,902 62) University of Washington-Seattle Campus 6,453,983 63) Saint Louis University 6,414,061 64) Clemson University 6,403,541 65) University of Georgia 6,338,487 66) Georgia Institute of Technology-Main Campus 6,329,728 67) Louisiana State University and Agricultural & Mechanical College 6,325,362 68) Seton Hall University 6,264,583 69) Arizona State University-Tempe 6,199,000 70) University of Tulsa 6,174,244 71) Rutgers University-New Brunswick 6,147,089 72) University of Colorado Boulder 6,138,058 73) Mississippi State University 6,111,629 74) Brigham Young University-Provo 6,081,807 75) Boston College 6,024,594 76) University of Houston 6,023,125 77) University of Missouri-Columbia 5,963,284 78) Temple University 5,920,903 79) San Diego State University 5,734,713 80) Stanford University 5,727,840 81) Xavier University 5,710,021 82) Virginia Commonwealth University 5,676,415 83) Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus 5,658,177 84) DePaul University 5,569,062 85) Oregon State University 5,498,174 86) University of Nevada-Las Vegas 5,386,263 87) University of Southern California 5,266,779 88) Washington State University 5,118,153 89) University of Dayton 5,000,454 90) University of Richmond 4,849,596 91) Butler University 4,833,565 92) University of South Florida-Main Campus 4,711,026 93) Grand Canyon University 4,306,041 94) University of Rhode Island 4,286,329 95) Colorado State University-Fort Collins 4,264,867 96) Duquesne University 4,229,922 97) Saint Joseph's University 4,208,092 98) University of San Francisco 4,205,606 99) University of Alabama at Birmingham 4,189,826 100) Fordham University 4,126,729 101) University of Massachusetts-Amherst 4,064,482 102) Tulane University of Louisiana 3,987,379 103) University of New Mexico-Main Campus 3,736,179 104) Liberty University 3,720,371 105) University of Wyoming 3,702,699 106) The University of Texas at El Paso 3,623,777 107) Old Dominion University 3,583,117 108) University of Portland 3,570,559 109) Loyola Marymount University 3,533,468 110) James Madison University 3,483,621 111) Rice University 3,427,660 112) Seattle University 3,413,715 113) Utah State University 3,363,296 114) University of Denver 3,361,111 115) Santa Clara University 3,345,588 116) George Mason University 3,342,681 117) University of North Carolina at Charlotte 3,280,507 118) California State University-Fresno 3,234,934 119) East Carolina University 3,187,963 120) University of Central Florida 3,166,282 121) Bradley University 3,128,419 122) Ohio University-Main Campus 3,101,150 123) University of Akron Main Campus 3,088,920 124) Siena College 3,083,128 125) New Mexico State University-Main Campus 3,003,045 126) Saint Mary's College of California 2,956,340 127) Belmont University 2,951,040 128) La Salle University 2,946,555 129) St Bonaventure University 2,917,071 130) George Washington University 2,915,197 131) Northeastern University 2,913,795 132) University of Northern Iowa 2,899,699 133) University of Evansville 2,899,667 134) University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee 2,877,237 135) University of California-Irvine 2,825,452 136) University of Hawaii at Manoa 2,813,078 137) Davidson College 2,799,370 138) Western Kentucky University 2,759,058 139) Loyola University Chicago 2,745,553 140) Oral Roberts University 2,741,483 141) Middle Tennessee State University 2,726,526 142) California State University-Long Beach 2,717,429 143) Valparaiso University 2,666,213 144) Drexel University 2,618,412 145) Florida Atlantic University 2,598,852 146) Fairfield University 2,590,915 147) Pepperdine University 2,561,072 148) University of the Pacific 2,558,711 149) Hofstra University 2,545,499 150) Quinnipiac University 2,516,824 151) University of San Diego 2,513,504 152) Boise State University 2,503,447 153) Drake University 2,472,212 154) University of Detroit Mercy 2,467,735 155) University of California-Santa Barbara 2,453,112 156) Illinois State University 2,452,961 157) Wright State University-Main Campus 2,445,427 158) Louisiana Tech University 2,443,159 159) Stony Brook University 2,435,574 160) University of North Texas 2,433,472 161) College of the Holy Cross 2,403,572 162) Bowling Green State University-Main Campus 2,389,470 163) University of Toledo 2,340,047 164) Marshall University 2,333,564 165) University of Louisiana at Lafayette 2,332,684 166) Miami University-Oxford 2,329,719 167) University of Delaware 2,328,346 168) Iona College 2,308,176 169) University of Nevada-Reno 2,288,942 170) University of Arkansas at Little Rock 2,283,345 171) Missouri State University-Springfield 2,279,917 172) Georgia State University 2,261,334 173) University of Hartford 2,257,904 174) University of North Carolina Wilmington 2,257,718 175) Southern Illinois University-Carbondale 2,241,413 176) University of Illinois at Chicago 2,231,609 177) Murray State University 2,218,712 178) Stephen F Austin State University 2,188,109 179) Western Michigan University 2,183,818 180) College of Charleston 2,180,876 181) Furman University 2,179,662 182) Bucknell University 2,172,546 183) Cleveland State University 2,172,463 184) Kent State University at Kent 2,152,644 185) Oakland University 2,111,833 186) Elon University 2,099,972 187) Manhattan College 2,097,510 188) California Polytechnic State University-San Luis Obispo 2,095,472 189) Boston University 2,093,165 190) California State University-Northridge 2,060,900 191) University at Buffalo 2,054,470 192) Monmouth University 2,054,441 193) Loyola University Maryland 2,048,853 194) Eastern Michigan University 2,031,759 195) Canisius College 2,027,506 196) Towson University 2,016,322 197) Robert Morris University 1,962,797 198) College of William and Mary 1,939,344 199) American University 1,934,639 200) Ball State University 1,905,730 201) Eastern Kentucky University 1,898,072 202) Mercer University 1,883,578 203) Coastal Carolina University 1,882,982 204) Northern Illinois University 1,880,733 205) Marist College 1,865,144 206) University of California-Davis 1,862,783 207) San Jose State University 1,851,101 208) Indiana State University 1,832,975 209) Texas State University 1,824,046 210) New Jersey Institute of Technology 1,823,046 211) University of Idaho 1,821,491 212) Colgate University 1,821,178 213) Samford University 1,821,098 214) East Tennessee State University 1,818,542 215) Lafayette College 1,816,334 216) University of Missouri-Kansas City 1,815,762 217) University of Southern Mississippi 1,808,186 218) LIU Brooklyn 1,805,546 219) Weber State University 1,799,880 220) Bryant University 1,796,753 221) The University of Tennessee-Chattanooga 1,793,638 222) The University of Texas at San Antonio 1,791,403 223) University of Wisconsin-Green Bay 1,776,757 224) Rider University 1,774,910 225) Florida International University 1,773,317 226) Lipscomb University 1,756,611 227) University of South Alabama 1,754,970 228) North Carolina Central University 1,752,803 229) High Point University 1,747,761 230) Florida Gulf Coast University 1,723,011 231) California State University-Bakersfield 1,697,054 232) Fairleigh Dickinson University-Metropolitan Campus 1,695,086 233) Mount St Mary's University 1,687,798 234) Howard University 1,682,347 235) University of California-Riverside 1,680,520 236) Texas A & M University-Corpus Christi 1,680,402 237) Montana State University 1,679,625 238) The University of Montana 1,678,354 239) Jacksonville University 1,653,294 240) Central Michigan University 1,646,267 241) Stetson University 1,623,909 242) Northern Kentucky University 1,623,294 243) Niagara University 1,622,963 244) SUNY at Albany 1,621,247 245) Northern Arizona University 1,611,995 246) Wagner College 1,597,445 247) SUNY at Binghamton 1,590,639 248) Appalachian State University 1,588,454 249) Campbell University 1,581,464 250) University of Vermont 1,579,502 251) University of North Dakota 1,579,108 252) Eastern Washington University 1,564,917 253) Indiana University-Purdue University-Indianapolis 1,564,479 254) The University of Texas at Arlington 1,549,654 255) University of Pennsylvania 1,546,923 256) University of North Florida 1,538,518 257) University of New Hampshire-Main Campus 1,534,596 258) Saint Francis University 1,529,048 259) Citadel Military College of South Carolina 1,527,117 260) Delaware State University 1,521,971 261) Central Connecticut State University 1,511,666 262) University of North Carolina at Greensboro 1,506,556 263) Wofford College 1,506,228 264) University of Massachusetts-Lowell 1,506,032 265) Gardner-Webb University 1,505,676 266) Morehead State University 1,495,716 267) Columbia University in the City of New York 1,494,045 268) University of Northern Colorado 1,490,726 269) University of Maryland-Baltimore County 1,485,381 270) Lehigh University 1,482,439 271) California State University-Fullerton 1,480,600 272) Longwood University 1,466,648 273) Charleston Southern University 1,458,792 274) South Dakota State University 1,443,001 275) Kennesaw State University 1,435,160 276) California State University-Sacramento 1,433,424 277) Sacred Heart University 1,431,536 278) North Dakota State University-Main Campus 1,417,450 279) St Francis College 1,410,698 280) The University of Texas Rio Grande Valley 1,404,530 281) Texas Southern University 1,400,553 282) Arkansas State University-Main Campus 1,389,844 283) Saint Peter's University 1,387,927 284) Dartmouth College 1,386,651 285) Lamar University 1,377,911 286) Morgan State University 1,363,395 287) Georgia Southern University 1,361,765 288) Troy University 1,355,678 289) North Carolina A & T State University 1,355,182 290) Youngstown State University 1,347,141 291) The University of Tennessee-Martin 1,340,126 292) University of Maine 1,328,389 293) Radford University 1,327,458 294) Virginia Military Institute 1,322,136 295) Tennessee State University 1,312,549 296) Austin Peay State University 1,304,155 297) Winthrop University 1,303,194 298) Harvard University 1,296,186 299) Idaho State University 1,290,851 300) University of Nebraska at Omaha 1,288,481 301) Portland State University 1,284,182 302) Houston Baptist University 1,273,000 303) Indiana University-Purdue University-Fort Wayne 1,269,206 304) Western Illinois University 1,238,197 305) Yale University 1,229,771 306) Presbyterian College 1,215,955 307) Bethune-Cookman University 1,203,595 308) Tennessee Technological University 1,201,935 309) Southeast Missouri State University 1,192,809 310) University of the Incarnate Word 1,180,488 311) Norfolk State University 1,170,179 312) University of Louisiana at Monroe 1,157,908 313) University of South Dakota 1,156,551 314) Hampton University 1,154,030 315) University of Maryland Eastern Shore 1,135,732 316) Princeton University 1,117,914 317) Utah Valley University 1,116,338 318) Jacksonville State University 1,111,582 319) Southern Utah University 1,111,575 320) Abilene Christian University 1,109,152 321) University of Central Arkansas 1,095,560 322) Sam Houston State University 1,087,458 323) Western Carolina University 1,082,372 324) Florida Agricultural and Mechanical University 1,068,173 325) Brown University 1,044,289 326) Eastern Illinois University 1,040,415 327) Southern Illinois University-Edwardsville 1,025,625 328) Northwestern State University of Louisiana 1,023,827 329) University of South Carolina-Upstate 987,517 330) Southeastern Louisiana University 978,939 331) University of New Orleans 954,002 332) University of North Carolina at Asheville 934,569 333) Prairie View A & M University 910,637 334) Southern University and A & M College 883,227 335) Alabama State University 859,867 336) McNeese State University 819,396 337) Alabama A & M University 817,868 338) South Carolina State University 806,005 339) Cornell University 792,795 340) Savannah State University 752,761 341) Coppin State University 738,712 342) Nicholls State University 697,767 343) Chicago State University 681,728 344) Grambling State University 678,446 345) Alcorn State University 629,683 346) Jackson State University 619,321 347) University of Arkansas at Pine Bluff 507,962 348) Mississippi Valley State University 505,795 RE: Division 1 Basketball Budget - dancingNMSUaggie - 04-03-2017 12:11 AM (04-03-2017 12:04 AM)Lopes87 Wrote: Snagged this off another CSNBBs forum. Spending all that money and you still can't win the WAC! RE: Division 1 Basketball Budget - SeattleVandals - 04-03-2017 12:20 AM No reason Dollar should have had SU playing so poorly 4 out of 5 years in the WAC with the 2nd highest budget. Then he went and made excuses to the Seattle Times saying this is SUs peak and it wont get better than this. What a joke. Love him as a person, but im so glad he's gone. Especially after trying to justify what hes done in his tenure here. Going from 4k average attendance as an INDEPENDENT to 1k IN THE WAC during your time coaching should say enough! Btw, Seattle U would be the 6th highest budget in the WCC, but 4-7 are all within 7 spots of each other in the rankings. RE: Division 1 Basketball Budget - NMSUPistolPete - 04-03-2017 12:45 AM (04-03-2017 12:20 AM)SeattleVandals Wrote: No reason Dollar should have had SU playing so poorly 4 out of 5 years in the WAC with the 2nd highest budget. Then he went and made excuses to the Seattle Times saying this is SUs peak and it wont get better than this. What a joke. Love him as a person, but im so glad he's gone. Especially after trying to justify what hes done in his tenure here. Going from 4k average attendance as an INDEPENDENT to 1k IN THE WAC during your time coaching should say enough! Yup, given Seattle U.'s basketball budget and talent rich location, Cameron Dollar should have had the Redhawks beating up on the Big West and Big Sky and very competitive with most of the WCC (minus Gonzaga). There is no reason why Seattle shouldn't be a much better basketball program right now. It's all coaching... bad coaching. RE: Division 1 Basketball Budget - FINALFOUR1970SWEETSIXTEEN1992 - 04-03-2017 10:27 AM GCU is garbage. RE: Division 1 Basketball Budget - FINALFOUR1970SWEETSIXTEEN1992 - 04-03-2017 10:28 AM GCU spends more money on their coaches than NMSU. NMSU spends more money on their players than GCU. RE: Division 1 Basketball Budget - dancingNMSUaggie - 04-03-2017 11:37 AM (04-03-2017 10:27 AM)FINALFOUR1970SWEETSIXTEEN1992 Wrote: GCU is garbage.I wouldn't go far as to say GCU is garbage (which by the way is Franks word of the month). However, I'm not buying a lot of things about GCU. Praising them about attendance when it is basically free to get into games and giving students some kind of monetary compensation to attend may be seen as an excellent marketing strategy, which it is, but IMO borderline unethical. Also, reading about GCU and all the lawsuits and unethical practices over the last couple of years has also soured me some on the school. On the flip side, behind the scene college athletics is probably unethical on so many levels and GCU might be saying, screw the norm, we are going to do it our way and it's working...so far. Overall, I don't think GCU is garbage and I'm sure many GCU students are using their education and have success in their fields. The GCU posters on here on top notch knowledgeable fans and I love them and how they support their school. I'm glad they are in the WAC and their fan base enthusiasm is contagious and has somewhat woken up our half dead indifferent student fan base. I saw much more student attendance and enthusiasm at our games and although I attribute most of that to Paul Weir and his success and him reaching out to the students in the off season and Moccia's marketing efforts, I also know that GCU's students fanatic support for their school has probably shamed NMSU's students to respond a little more. I'm not blind to NMSU's many many faults and shortcomings. However, like the housing bubble, I think GCU's new found success is the same. It's all dependent on winning of course, Dan Majerle sticking around, and Jerry Colangelo being involved, which IMO you GCU fans are dreaming if they think Majerle and Colangelo being involved will last forever. NMSU on the other hand has a long list of successful coaches and for mid major schools, most appearances in the NCAA tourney and if and when Weir leaves (which he will for big money if he keeps having success), I'm confident NMSU will continue it's winning ways. I'm not so sure about GCU. Just hope the stock doesn't start plummeting some day on the school. BTW, your HAVOCs constant chest pounding back patting of themselves and acting like the world revolves around them because of blurbs from different news outlets is annoying as hell, and thanks to their constant berating of NMSU and my city, I think they have accomplished and manipulated a lot of our fans into thinking it's a rivalry. Also, beating us two years in a row is commendable and also contributes to GCU's efforts to create a rivalry. Kudos to them. You are now our rival. NMSU Aggie fans hate you! Congrats. RE: Division 1 Basketball Budget - gleadley - 04-03-2017 12:32 PM Did we skip the serving of Festivus dinner & jump straight to Airing of Grievances? Most Aggie fans don't like GCU for any number of reasons. Some based in fact. Some not. No sense in trying to change minds. Nobody is here for that anyway. It is what it is. I still struggle to fully embrace the "rival" narrative. GCU wouldn't be a rival to NMSU if we weren't a threat. NMSU wouldn't be a rival to GCU if they weren't at the top of the WAC. Neither would call/consider the other a rival if we ever ended up in different conferences. At the end of the day, if each is pushing the other to be and become better on and away from the court, both schools win. Shoot, all WAC schools win. Better coaching, better players & better fan support from top to bottom of the conference is good for everyone. You can call it rivalry. I just might call it something else. RE: Division 1 Basketball Budget - NMSUPistolPete - 04-03-2017 12:47 PM As GCU vies for the ONE NCAA bid, rivalries will be formed. In the conference's current configuration, NMSU has only stubbed their toe against Bakersfield in the WAC tournament. So, NMSU fan's have some disdain toward their program. RE: Division 1 Basketball Budget - SeattleVandals - 04-03-2017 12:54 PM NMSU/GCU rivalry should be embraced. Theres so much passion on Twitter and on here, I dont know why it wouldn't be a rivalry. Its the only non-SU WAC game I plan to watch each season because of that. Its good for the WAC having a real rivalry, GCU having their first rival, and NMSU actually having a conference rival RE: Division 1 Basketball Budget - gleadley - 04-03-2017 01:42 PM (04-03-2017 12:54 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote: NMSU/GCU rivalry should be embraced. Theres so much passion on Twitter and on here, I dont know why it wouldn't be a rivalry. Its the only non-SU WAC game I plan to watch each season because of that. Its good for the WAC having a real rivalry, GCU having their first rival, and NMSU actually having a conference rival Are you saying if we can't rival the one we want (ASU), we should rival the one we're with (NMSU)? Hahaha RE: Division 1 Basketball Budget - SeattleVandals - 04-03-2017 01:53 PM (04-03-2017 01:42 PM)gleadley Wrote:(04-03-2017 12:54 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote: NMSU/GCU rivalry should be embraced. Theres so much passion on Twitter and on here, I dont know why it wouldn't be a rivalry. Its the only non-SU WAC game I plan to watch each season because of that. Its good for the WAC having a real rivalry, GCU having their first rival, and NMSU actually having a conference rival Once ASU stops pretending GCU doesnt exist, then it can be a rivalry lmao. Right now Seattle U is the only WAC member with a Pac 12 rival RE: Division 1 Basketball Budget - NMSUPistolPete - 04-03-2017 02:04 PM (04-03-2017 01:42 PM)gleadley Wrote:(04-03-2017 12:54 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote: NMSU/GCU rivalry should be embraced. Theres so much passion on Twitter and on here, I dont know why it wouldn't be a rivalry. Its the only non-SU WAC game I plan to watch each season because of that. Its good for the WAC having a real rivalry, GCU having their first rival, and NMSU actually having a conference rival At this moment, Arizona has no problem competing with GCU on the court because GCU's existence doesn't effect their recruiting. Arizona recruits on a national level. GCU (and ASU) recruit more on a regional level. However, ASU won't acknowledge GCU on the court. As GCU steels more local basketball talent and wins more games, ASU can't help to have a rivalry off the court with GCU (in the media and on recruiting trails). GCU is a thorn in the side to ASU. RE: Division 1 Basketball Budget - NMSTFan - 04-03-2017 02:51 PM (04-03-2017 01:42 PM)gleadley Wrote:(04-03-2017 12:54 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote: NMSU/GCU rivalry should be embraced. Theres so much passion on Twitter and on here, I dont know why it wouldn't be a rivalry. Its the only non-SU WAC game I plan to watch each season because of that. Its good for the WAC having a real rivalry, GCU having their first rival, and NMSU actually having a conference rival I'm not sure you get to choose your rivial, IMO it Builds after two programs can compare success agaisnt each other for example, competeting for WAC Championships( something GCU hasn't accomplished yet), Attendance (Something GCU has accomplished) etc. However, I do believe this could be great Rivialry since GCU has top notch budget and we are pretty successful despite not having a great market or Budget. If UNM and UA can have a Rivialry why shouldn't NMSU/GCU be a thing. Besides we are pretty close to each other, in fact we are in A bordering state to Arizona. Sort of feels natural to compete agaisnt y'all. "The Gadsen Purchase Showdown" RE: Division 1 Basketball Budget - NMSUPistolPete - 04-03-2017 03:12 PM (04-03-2017 02:51 PM)NMSTFan Wrote:(04-03-2017 01:42 PM)gleadley Wrote:(04-03-2017 12:54 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote: NMSU/GCU rivalry should be embraced. Theres so much passion on Twitter and on here, I dont know why it wouldn't be a rivalry. Its the only non-SU WAC game I plan to watch each season because of that. Its good for the WAC having a real rivalry, GCU having their first rival, and NMSU actually having a conference rival Well, Phoenix sit in the territory of the Mexican Cession of 1848. And, Las Cruces sits in the territory of the Texas Annexations of 1845, but close enough. Nevertheless, I think rivalry between NMSU and GCU can form now that GCU is NCAA tournament eligible and no longer unimpeded in recruiting. Let the Battle for the WAC begin. RE: Division 1 Basketball Budget - FINALFOUR1970SWEETSIXTEEN1992 - 04-03-2017 03:34 PM (04-03-2017 12:32 PM)gleadley Wrote: Did we skip the serving of Festivus dinner & jump straight to Airing of Grievances? Most Aggie fans don't like GCU for any number of reasons. Some based in fact. Some not. No sense in trying to change minds. Nobody is here for that anyway. It is what it is. GCU is 2-6 vs New Mexico State, so we really aren't a true rivalry yet. You guys have a far way to go before you even get to our level. RE: Division 1 Basketball Budget - FINALFOUR1970SWEETSIXTEEN1992 - 04-03-2017 03:35 PM (04-03-2017 01:42 PM)gleadley Wrote:(04-03-2017 12:54 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote: NMSU/GCU rivalry should be embraced. Theres so much passion on Twitter and on here, I dont know why it wouldn't be a rivalry. Its the only non-SU WAC game I plan to watch each season because of that. Its good for the WAC having a real rivalry, GCU having their first rival, and NMSU actually having a conference rival GCU can't compete with ASU. You guys can dream though. RE: Division 1 Basketball Budget - ThunderDan49 - 04-03-2017 06:17 PM (04-03-2017 11:37 AM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:(04-03-2017 10:27 AM)FINALFOUR1970SWEETSIXTEEN1992 Wrote: GCU is garbage.I wouldn't go far as to say GCU is garbage (which by the way is Franks word of the month). However, I'm not buying a lot of things about GCU. Praising them about attendance when it is basically free to get into games and giving students some kind of monetary compensation to attend may be seen as an excellent marketing strategy, which it is, but IMO borderline unethical. Also, reading about GCU and all the lawsuits and unethical practices over the last couple of years has also soured me some on the school. On the flip side, behind the scene college athletics is probably unethical on so many levels and GCU might be saying, screw the norm, we are going to do it our way and it's working...so far. Overall, I don't think GCU is garbage and I'm sure many GCU students are using their education and have success in their fields. The GCU posters on here on top notch knowledgeable fans and I love them and how they support their school. I'm glad they are in the WAC and their fan base enthusiasm is contagious and has somewhat woken up our half dead indifferent student fan base. I saw much more student attendance and enthusiasm at our games and although I attribute most of that to Paul Weir and his success and him reaching out to the students in the off season and Moccia's marketing efforts, I also know that GCU's students fanatic support for their school has probably shamed NMSU's students to respond a little more. I'm not blind to NMSU's many many faults and shortcomings. However, like the housing bubble, I think GCU's new found success is the same. It's all dependent on winning of course, Dan Majerle sticking around, and Jerry Colangelo being involved, which IMO you GCU fans are dreaming if they think Majerle and Colangelo being involved will last forever. NMSU on the other hand has a long list of successful coaches and for mid major schools, most appearances in the NCAA tourney and if and when Weir leaves (which he will for big money if he keeps having success), I'm confident NMSU will continue it's winning ways. I'm not so sure about GCU. Just hope the stock doesn't start plummeting some day on the school. BTW, your HAVOCs constant chest pounding back patting of themselves and acting like the world revolves around them because of blurbs from different news outlets is annoying as hell, and thanks to their constant berating of NMSU and my city, I think they have accomplished and manipulated a lot of our fans into thinking it's a rivalry. Also, beating us two years in a row is commendable and also contributes to GCU's efforts to create a rivalry. Kudos to them. You are now our rival. NMSU Aggie fans hate you! Congrats. That was a dumb statement made by a misinformed reporter. The scholarships that they gave out during that game was just GCU was part of the string of scholarships that they were giving out to students at GCU, the only thing was that you had to be in the student section during that game. That's probably the reason the reporter thought that GCU pays us to show up. I know that I haven't received any discounts on my tuition and I missed one home game when we were in session. And our cost for all sporting events is covered in a mandatory athletics fee like any other school. RE: Division 1 Basketball Budget - ThunderDan49 - 04-03-2017 06:23 PM (04-03-2017 03:35 PM)FINALFOUR1970SWEETSIXTEEN1992 Wrote:(04-03-2017 01:42 PM)gleadley Wrote:(04-03-2017 12:54 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote: NMSU/GCU rivalry should be embraced. Theres so much passion on Twitter and on here, I dont know why it wouldn't be a rivalry. Its the only non-SU WAC game I plan to watch each season because of that. Its good for the WAC having a real rivalry, GCU having their first rival, and NMSU actually having a conference rival You may wanna think that, but if GCU were competing with ASU for players in the same region, it would be better for ASU to wipe the floor with us (since we are garbage and can't compete with ASU) than it would to refuse to play us. Plus the whole the PAC-12 has a waiver that says their teams can't play for-profit schools is BS because we have played over half the PAC-12 across all of our sports. RE: Division 1 Basketball Budget - dancingNMSUaggie - 04-03-2017 06:32 PM (04-03-2017 06:23 PM)ThunderDan49 Wrote:I saw ASU played GCU in Lacrosse, didn't they? They have to just drop that stupid ban. Everyone is playing GCU now. I don't think anyone should ban to play GCU because they are for profit. Play them Arizona State. They look foolish not playing them.(04-03-2017 03:35 PM)FINALFOUR1970SWEETSIXTEEN1992 Wrote:(04-03-2017 01:42 PM)gleadley Wrote:(04-03-2017 12:54 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote: NMSU/GCU rivalry should be embraced. Theres so much passion on Twitter and on here, I dont know why it wouldn't be a rivalry. Its the only non-SU WAC game I plan to watch each season because of that. Its good for the WAC having a real rivalry, GCU having their first rival, and NMSU actually having a conference rival |