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247 Sports: Ranking the Top G5 Jobs in Footballl - CliftonAve - 02-21-2017 05:01 PM We're discussing this on another board, I figured asked what this board's thoughts were to this article from 247 Sports. (02-21-2017 03:22 PM)M1T4 Wrote: http://memphis.247sports.com/Article/What-are-the-best-Group-of-5-jobs-in-football--51407646 RE: 247 Sports: Ranking the Top G5 Jobs in Footballl - utpotts - 02-21-2017 05:12 PM Just because WMU had one good year, doesn't mean its a top G5 job. LOL RE: 247 Sports: Ranking the Top G5 Jobs in Footballl - p23570 - 02-21-2017 06:12 PM Going to be hard to beat Houston as far as a list of past coaches who went on to win lots of football games. Briles, Sumlin, Hermann. But as far as resources I'd think SMU has a lot of potential. RE: 247 Sports: Ranking the Top G5 Jobs in Footballl - chiefsfan - 02-21-2017 06:19 PM Some of the names on this list are unusual, and may really be the product of a single head coach more than anything. RE: 247 Sports: Ranking the Top G5 Jobs in Footballl - CliftonAve - 02-21-2017 06:23 PM (02-21-2017 06:19 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: Some of the names on this list are unusual, and may really be the product of a single head coach more than anything. Which of the top 10 are unusual and are the result of one coach? Memphis and Temple? Norvell seems to have things moving in the right direction in Memphis and Temple was decent before Rhule. The Top 6 have been successful through several head coaches, have fertile recruiting territory (with the exception of BSU) and strong brand recognition-- they are usually always listed among the first when conference expansion is discussed. RE: 247 Sports: Ranking the Top G5 Jobs in Footballl - RutgersGuy - 02-21-2017 06:30 PM Just off the top of my head i'd throw San Diego State on that list. Good recruiting territory down in SoCal, SD is an absolutely gorgeous city and as far as G5 goes it's the top non-power western conference. RE: 247 Sports: Ranking the Top G5 Jobs in Footballl - p23570 - 02-21-2017 06:37 PM (02-21-2017 06:30 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote: Just off the top of my head i'd throw San Diego State on that list. Good recruiting territory down in SoCal, SD is an absolutely gorgeous city and as far as G5 goes it's the top non-power western conference. Mr Butthurt himself. LOL. Before Rocky Long it was 1986 since SDSU won a CC. Brady Hoke had some success Chuck Long Tom Craft Ted Tollner Al Luginbill I don't see them belonging on the list. RE: 247 Sports: Ranking the Top G5 Jobs in Footballl - chiefsfan - 02-21-2017 06:53 PM (02-21-2017 06:23 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:(02-21-2017 06:19 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: Some of the names on this list are unusual, and may really be the product of a single head coach more than anything. I was really looking at Western Michigan and FAU in the next 5 list, though I did raise my eyebrows at Temple a little. RE: 247 Sports: Ranking the Top G5 Jobs in Footballl - DavidSt - 02-21-2017 07:25 PM I see several schools not listed that I could considered better than some of the top 10, and the net 5. Toledo Northern Illinois Bowling Green Western Kentucky Arkansas State UNR NAVY Air Force Appalachian State Georgia Southern The next group would be FCS schools that could be among the best. Eastern Washington North Dakota State Sam Houston State McNeese State James Madison Delaware Villanova New Hampshire Northern Iowa Jacksonville State Chattanooga RE: 247 Sports: Ranking the Top G5 Jobs in Footballl - Captain Bearcat - 02-21-2017 08:35 PM (02-21-2017 06:30 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote: Just off the top of my head i'd throw San Diego State on that list. Good recruiting territory down in SoCal, SD is an absolutely gorgeous city and as far as G5 goes it's the top non-power western conference. SDSU is THE team of t-shirt fans in San Diego County (population 3.5 million - bigger than Iowa or Utah). That's a huge asset and it deserves a spot in the Top-10 G5 jobs just based on that alone. But the stadium situation is atrocious. And CA real estate politics are unlike politics anywhere else - solving the stadium problem could easily take a decade. And if you think San Diego is beautiful, you've never been outside the tourist areas. But in fact it's the poorest large US city - after adjusting for cost of living, it's fighting for the basement with Jackson, MS - and it shows. The vast majority of the city (including around campus) is tiny run-down ranch houses and strip malls built from the 50s through the 80s (real estate politics have all but stopped new developments since then). And most of the city (including the campus) is a pale brown desert that looks similar to Phoenix. Maybe a coach won't care about that because they'll live in the rich area. But the campus isn't in Coronado or La Jolla - so they'll be spending most of their time in a dingy neighborhood and dodging homeless people on the way to the office. RE: 247 Sports: Ranking the Top G5 Jobs in Footballl - HeartOfDixie - 02-21-2017 08:37 PM I think #1 is probably undisputed. RE: 247 Sports: Ranking the Top G5 Jobs in Football - Wedge - 02-21-2017 09:17 PM (02-21-2017 08:35 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: But the stadium situation is atrocious. And CA real estate politics are unlike politics anywhere else - solving the stadium problem could easily take a decade. Atrocious, for sure. If politics kills the stadium plans of the would-be San Diego MLS owners, Qualcomm Stadium will probably just be torn down because it's costing the city $12 million/year to maintain the stadium and SDSU is paying almost nothing in rent. SDSU athletics doesn't have the money to build a good stadium on its campus, in fact they might not even have room to build a football stadium on campus. Unless they can raise a heckuva lot of money in a big hurry, they are in a very tough spot. RE: 247 Sports: Ranking the Top G5 Jobs in Footballl - DawgNBama - 02-26-2017 12:22 AM I'm surprised that Southern Miss , Marshall, and Troy aren't on there. Those three are three really good G5 jobs to me. (02-21-2017 09:17 PM)Wedge Wrote:(02-21-2017 08:35 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: But the stadium situation is atrocious. And CA real estate politics are unlike politics anywhere else - solving the stadium problem could easily take a decade. If SDSU was LASU or SFSU, and if the MLS stadium was to be built in LA or SF, it would be built in hurry. That's how California politics have worked for years until Arnold Schwarzenegger came along. Now that he's out of office, it's back to business as usual. RE: 247 Sports: Ranking the Top G5 Jobs in Footballl - USM@FTL - 02-26-2017 10:21 AM This looks to be heavily weighed towards money/salary, which is understood. RE: 247 Sports: Ranking the Top G5 Jobs in Footballl - Kittonhead - 02-26-2017 10:44 AM I'm fine with the top of the list but I'm just not seeing SMU and Colorado State as top G5 jobs. They've struggled to win at those places for years. I'd have Toledo and Northern Illinois on there instead. Coaches have been in and out of there yet they continue to win. RE: 247 Sports: Ranking the Top G5 Jobs in Footballl - Tom in Lazybrook - 02-26-2017 10:54 AM (02-21-2017 08:35 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:(02-21-2017 06:30 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote: Just off the top of my head i'd throw San Diego State on that list. Good recruiting territory down in SoCal, SD is an absolutely gorgeous city and as far as G5 goes it's the top non-power western conference. LOL. I lived in SD for 5 years. I actually agree with some of this. SD is a profoundly ugly city in a gorgeous setting. I was about the only person there who had a job that allowed me to afford a decent home there. And you're spot on about the homeless situation. Walking 3 blocks from the parking garage to my office downtown was always a guantlet of agressive panhandlers, and something I dreaded. That being said, there are pretty areas away from the coast, with prices that aren't too outreagous (compared to the West Coast/Mid Atlantic/Northeast, and the town really does support the Aztecs. Its easily a top 10 G5 job. RE: 247 Sports: Ranking the Top G5 Jobs in Footballl - Kittonhead - 02-26-2017 10:59 AM Put SDSU in and take out Memphis. RE: 247 Sports: Ranking the Top G5 Jobs in Footballl - Love and Honor - 02-26-2017 01:14 PM Make this same list two years from now and Miami may be deserving of a spot on this list. We have a brand new football complex at the level of mid-P5 schools, a two-year old IPF that one NFL scout said was the nicest in Ohio, and we have suites on the horizon. Salaries were second or third in the MAC before Fleck left IIRC, but we have one of the wealthiest alumni bases in the G5 so as we start seeing real results on the field we'll be able to give Chuck Martin and our staff a hefty raise. If we're not on this list, we'll be the top job in the MAC at least. There's a reason Miami is the Cradle of Coaches. RE: 247 Sports: Ranking the Top G5 Jobs in Footballl - p23570 - 02-26-2017 02:36 PM (02-26-2017 10:21 AM)USM@FTL Wrote: This looks to be heavily weighed towards money/salary, which is understood. And wealthy alumni who support the AD. Rice is a sleeping giant in that regard as they may have he most wealthy alumni in the g-5. RE: 247 Sports: Ranking the Top G5 Jobs in Footballl - ARSTATEFAN1986 - 02-26-2017 05:51 PM (02-21-2017 05:12 PM)utpotts Wrote: Just because WMU had one good year, doesn't mean its a top G5 job. LOL Same here...lol! |