Quote:Bates is in his fifth year leading the school’s sports programs. He will be a vice president at CSA, an executive search and consulting firm based in Chapel Hill, N.C. Bates will lead the firm’s consulting division.

(02-20-2017 06:43 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  BC fans must be rejoicing. Hope they are able to turn it around in basketball especially.

I wonder if they would consider approaching Doug Flutie for the AD position.

(02-20-2017 06:43 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  BC fans must be rejoicing. Hope they are able to turn it around in basketball especially.

I wonder if they would consider approaching Doug Flutie for the AD position.

(02-20-2017 07:33 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 06:43 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  BC fans must be rejoicing. Hope they are able to turn it around in basketball especially.

I wonder if they would consider approaching Doug Flutie for the AD position.

I think most of us are satisfied. (Although this has been open knowledge for months; today just made it official.) To the fanbase, this has been a significant issue for BC (regardless of what my Husky friend infers above). Very nice guy...but the general opinion of most in the BC community is that he was in over his head.

Not sure DF would want the job as he has a pretty nice gig and lifestyle right now.

Football had a decent turnaround this year....7-6 with a bowl win over Maryland. MBB has improved and has a solid backcourt, but they have a ways to go still, quite obviously. New facilities coming. This spring BC breaks ground on new baseball and softball fields as well as a new football indoor practice facility.

Things are looking up.

(02-20-2017 10:17 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 07:33 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 06:43 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  BC fans must be rejoicing. Hope they are able to turn it around in basketball especially.

I wonder if they would consider approaching Doug Flutie for the AD position.

I think most of us are satisfied. (Although this has been open knowledge for months; today just made it official.) To the fanbase, this has been a significant issue for BC (regardless of what my Husky friend infers above). Very nice guy...but the general opinion of most in the BC community is that he was in over his head.

Not sure DF would want the job as he has a pretty nice gig and lifestyle right now.

Football had a decent turnaround this year....7-6 with a bowl win over Maryland. MBB has improved and has a solid backcourt, but they have a ways to go still, quite obviously. New facilities coming. This spring BC breaks ground on new baseball and softball fields as well as a new football indoor practice facility.

Things are looking up.

As bad as our football has been, your basketball has been far worse. Just calling a spade a spade. Whereas basketball is the number 1 or 2 sport at most schools, it is the disregarded number 3 sport behind football and hockey at BC. It is what it is. We all have our problem sports, ours being football. Hopefully the new AD can lead the MBB program into the right direction.

(02-20-2017 06:43 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  BC fans must be rejoicing. Hope they are able to turn it around in basketball especially.

I wonder if they would consider approaching Doug Flutie for the AD position.

(02-21-2017 02:03 AM)connecticutguy Wrote:  My hope is that the new AD at BC will realize that playing UConn and having UConn in the ACC will be a benefit to both colleges. BC has no real rivals now, like Holy Cross of old. An annual Thanksgiving week football game between BC and UConn would be very popular with fans. Hopefully, the upcoming BC-UConn football game at Fenway will become an annual tradition.

(02-21-2017 03:40 PM)p23570 Wrote:  They are nothing but an anchor dragging down the ACC in every way.

(02-21-2017 06:17 PM)p23570 Wrote:  That has to be valuable.

(02-21-2017 06:17 PM)p23570 Wrote:  LOL. Just waiting to be tapped?

BC's best days are behind them. Recruits don't even know who Doug Flutie is. The problem is like more widespread than just the AD as well. I think they just lack the resources to compete at the p-5 level for a variety of reasons but the biggest being fan support and finances.

But on the bright side they do have a great hockey program which is the only sport they have a NC in. That has to be valuable.

So where will they look for the replacement?

(02-21-2017 10:34 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(02-21-2017 06:17 PM)p23570 Wrote:  LOL. Just waiting to be tapped?

BC's best days are behind them. Recruits don't even know who Doug Flutie is. The problem is like more widespread than just the AD as well. I think they just lack the resources to compete at the p-5 level for a variety of reasons but the biggest being fan support and finances.

But on the bright side they do have a great hockey program which is the only sport they have a NC in. That has to be valuable.

So where will they look for the replacement?

So much foolishness in this post. No resources? BC is a very wealthy school with an endowment close to $3B. They are spending in $200M in facilities upgrades, including a new indoor practice facility (construction starting in May) to go along with the FB building built in the past 10 years.

When the ACCN arrives in 2019, it will be able to leverage cable carriage from the 8th largest and one of the wealthiest markets in the US (Greater Boston) as a result of BC. It always amazes me how some just don't understand that dynamic.

No fans. Yeah, right.

(02-21-2017 10:54 PM)p23570 Wrote:  

(02-21-2017 10:34 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(02-21-2017 06:17 PM)p23570 Wrote:  LOL. Just waiting to be tapped?

BC's best days are behind them. Recruits don't even know who Doug Flutie is. The problem is like more widespread than just the AD as well. I think they just lack the resources to compete at the p-5 level for a variety of reasons but the biggest being fan support and finances.

But on the bright side they do have a great hockey program which is the only sport they have a NC in. That has to be valuable.

So where will they look for the replacement?

So much foolishness in this post. No resources? BC is a very wealthy school with an endowment close to $3B. They are spending in $200M in facilities upgrades, including a new indoor practice facility (construction starting in May) to go along with the FB building built in the past 10 years.

When the ACCN arrives in 2019, it will be able to leverage cable carriage from the 8th largest and one of the wealthiest markets in the US (Greater Boston) as a result of BC. It always amazes me how some just don't understand that dynamic.

No fans. Yeah, right.

The old fallback. When AD finances dont' add up talk about endowment.

Endowment is irrelevant, just ask Rice.

BC is only falling further behind in the facilites race. They simply don't have the $ to be anywhere approaching top tier facilities. Everyone is doing projects and I doubt BC's are even mid level p-5.

BC is not going to carry Massachusetts or even Boston from a tV perspective. ACC penetration in Boston is non existent aside from Notre Dame.

TV ratings and attendance confirms BC is in a tough spot and nowhere near the fanbase that it woudl take to carry that market. Aside from Wake BC might be the smallest fanbase in the ACC.

TV ratings
Week 1
— 682K Ga. Tech
Boston College ACC 7:30 AM ESPN2
2
-
3
214K Boston College
Virginia Tech ACC 3:35 PM ESPNU
4
-
5
-
6
1.0 1.659M Clemson
Bos. College ACC 7:25 PM ESPN
7
-
8
-
9
-
10
0.4 653K Louisville
Boston College ACC 12:00 PM ESPN2
11
1.152M Bos. College
FSU ACC 7:25 PM ESPN2
12
-
13
-

So after looking at the TV rating for the year do you really think they can carry a huge market?

Looks to me like they only are on TV when they play a highly rated team and even then the ratings are very disappointing and indicate little fan support for BC.

And on attendance.
Football still has games in the low 20's and the better games are in the mid 30's. One of the lowest in the p-5
Basketball 3k to 5k for most games is one of the worst in p-5.
Womens BB has anywhere from a few hundred people to 1,000. One of the worst in the p-5

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news but there is no way in hell BC is going to carry Boston, let alone Massachusetts. ACCN is going to struggle in those situations IMO. Nobody in Boston watches BC in person or on TV so yes clearly there is a fan support issue. Glad we got that straight.

Dead last in the ACC in BB
Boston College 2-13 9-19

And also last in the ACC in WBB
Boston College 2-12 9-18

I'm nost sure that job is really that attractive.

(02-21-2017 06:17 PM)p23570 Wrote:  BC's best days are behind them. Recruits don't even know who Doug Flutie is.

(02-21-2017 10:34 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  When the ACCN arrives in 2019, it will be able to leverage cable carriage from the 8th largest and one of the wealthiest markets in the US (Greater Boston) as a result of BC.

(02-21-2017 10:57 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  If you know how strong of an athletic program Miami has historically been and how weak it was when BC hired Bates from us