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Basketball Starting Five Next Season? - DetroitRocket - 05-09-2016 08:51 AM
C Knapke
WF Navigato/Gordon
PF Garber/Taylor/Adway
2G Williams/Sanford/Lauf/Antunez
PG Roberts/Dzierzawski
Thoughts?
RE: Basketball Starting Five Next Season? - Boca Rocket - 05-09-2016 09:05 AM
(05-09-2016 08:51 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote: C Knapke
WF Navigato/Gordon
PF Garber/Taylor/Adway
2G Williams/Sanford/Lauf/Antunez
PG Roberts/Dzierzawski
Thoughts?
Yeah, Rocket Football opens @Arkansas State Saturday, September 3rd.
I can't wait!
RE: Basketball Starting Five Next Season? - Rocket75 - 05-09-2016 09:39 AM
Sanford should be a starter again next season. We will likely again mainly play with 2 bigs and 3 guards.
RE: Basketball Starting Five Next Season? - bcunn3128 - 05-09-2016 10:07 AM
(05-09-2016 09:39 AM)Rocket75 Wrote: Sanford should be a starter again next season. We will likely again mainly play with 2 bigs and 3 guards.
At this very early stage, I agree. I liked having Navigato come off the bench, and wouldn't be too surprised to see that happen again next season (he'll still have "starter's minutes").
It will be interesting to see how the minutes end up getting spread between Knapke, Taylor & Garber. Somebody likely plays some time facing the basket out of that group.
RE: Basketball Starting Five Next Season? - Rocket75 - 05-09-2016 11:44 AM
Marquette transfer Taylor will get plenty of playing time. He may not be a big scorer but he will be a real asset to the team.
RE: Basketball Starting Five Next Season? - inductchuck16 - 05-09-2016 11:55 AM
(05-09-2016 11:44 AM)Rocket75 Wrote: Marquette transfer Taylor will get plenty of playing time. He may not be a big scorer but he will be a real asset to the team.
I'm really hoping he is in the starting lineup. He's our biggest guy, by far, and looks like he has tremendous strength. I'm praying we found ourselves a true rebounder/ defender (think Ben Wallace).
RE: Basketball Starting Five Next Season? - Rocket Pirate - 05-09-2016 12:07 PM
I'm not sure about PG and SF (or third guard), but I think the near locks are Jon Jon at SG, Taylor at PF, and Garber at C.
RE: Basketball Starting Five Next Season? - San Giuseppe Jato Rocket - 05-09-2016 12:16 PM
C Garber/Knapke
WF Navigato/Gordon
PF Taylor/Adway
2G Williams/Sanford/Lauf
PG Antunez/Dzierzawski/Roberts
RE: Basketball Starting Five Next Season? - H2Oville Rocket - 05-09-2016 12:33 PM
PG Dzierzawski
C Garber
SG Williams
Other SG. Sanford
PF. Taylor
Navigato's handles and size allow him to sub at three positions as sixth man. Knapke and Roberts sub first at the other two.
RE: Basketball Starting Five Next Season? - cleveland - 05-09-2016 03:06 PM
(05-09-2016 12:33 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote: PG Dzierzawski
C Garber
SG Williams
Other SG. Sanford
PF. Taylor
Navigato's handles and size allow him to sub at three positions as sixth man. Knapke and Roberts sub first at the other two.
PG Sanford
2G Williams
SF Adway
PF Taylor
C Knapke ...
Garber can play both power positions so his value is coming off the bench ... SF can be split any number of ways, but Adway is the athlete in the bunch. Those SF minutes are going to be split all over the place so starter doesn't matter ... but Adway could be the difference maker as a defender/rebounder/athlete this team needs if he can get his game in order, and coaches get confidence in him.
RE: Basketball Starting Five Next Season? - H2Oville Rocket - 05-09-2016 03:14 PM
(05-09-2016 03:06 PM)cleveland Wrote:(05-09-2016 12:33 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote: PG Dzierzawski
C Garber
SG Williams
Other SG. Sanford
PF. Taylor
Navigato's handles and size allow him to sub at three positions as sixth man. Knapke and Roberts sub first at the other two.
PG Sanford
2G Williams
SF Adway
PF Taylor
C Knapke ...
Garber can play both power positions so his value is coming off the bench ... SF can be split any number of ways, but Adway is the athlete in the bunch. Those SF minutes are going to be split all over the place so starter doesn't matter ... but Adway could be the difference maker as a defender/rebounder/athlete this team needs if he can get his game in order, and coaches get confidence in him.
Hope you're right on Adway but if Sanford starts at PG I will seriously question K's thinking in bringing in 3 guys who can play point, two of them JC transfers.
RE: Basketball Starting Five Next Season? - Dwight - 05-09-2016 03:15 PM
PG - Dziersawski
SG - Williams
C - Taylor
PF - Navigato
SF - Sanford
Others getting regular minutes - Lauf, Garber, and either Antunez or Roberts. Others seem to think that Knapke is very good. I have no idea. I do know that in general K has gone with eight players, with maybe a ninth getting limited minutes, so I assume he will continue that pattern.
Playing the two big guys together worked well this past year, but Boothe was able to play outside offensively. I'm not sure that K will want two guys with very limited range to play together regularly.
RE: Basketball Starting Five Next Season? - H2Oville Rocket - 05-09-2016 03:20 PM
(05-09-2016 03:15 PM)Dwight Wrote: PG - Dziersawski
SG - Williams
C - Taylor
PF - Navigato
SF - Sanford
Others getting regular minutes - Lauf, Garber, and either Antunez or Roberts. Others seem to think that Knapke is very good. I have no idea. I do know that in general K has gone with eight players, with maybe a ninth getting limited minutes, so I assume he will continue that pattern.
Playing the two big guys together worked well this past year, but Boothe was able to play outside offensively. I'm not sure that K will want two guys with very limited range to play together regularly.
From what I hear and the little I've seen, Knapke can step outside pretty well. Not sure he's going to put the ball on the floor like Boothe but he has decent range.
RE: Basketball Starting Five Next Season? - DetroitRocket - 05-09-2016 05:10 PM
(05-09-2016 03:20 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:(05-09-2016 03:15 PM)Dwight Wrote: PG - Dziersawski
SG - Williams
C - Taylor
PF - Navigato
SF - Sanford
Others getting regular minutes - Lauf, Garber, and either Antunez or Roberts. Others seem to think that Knapke is very good. I have no idea. I do know that in general K has gone with eight players, with maybe a ninth getting limited minutes, so I assume he will continue that pattern.
Playing the two big guys together worked well this past year, but Boothe was able to play outside offensively. I'm not sure that K will want two guys with very limited range to play together regularly.
From what I hear and the little I've seen, Knapke can step outside pretty well. Not sure he's going to put the ball on the floor like Boothe but he has decent range.
Sanford can't play PG on the DI level, lacks quickness and could never defend MAC PG's.
On Knapke, he's huge. Legit 7-0 and really long arms. Would love to know what his wingspan is. I've seen him shoot from the outside, and he's way ahead of Boothe when he was a freshman. Remains to be seen how this transfers to the court, but his upside could be huge.
RE: Basketball Starting Five Next Season? - Rocket75 - 05-09-2016 06:35 PM
The team can play big or small when needed. Big lineup will be when Taylor, Garber and Knapke are in together. I believe a 10 man rotation is possible. Lot more fouls to give when we are deep. This will likely be the deepest team since Coach K got here.
RE: Basketball Starting Five Next Season? - rocketpaul - 05-09-2016 07:42 PM
(05-09-2016 06:35 PM)Rocket75 Wrote: The team can play big or small when needed. Big lineup will be when Taylor, Garber and Knapke are in together. I believe a 10 man rotation is possible. Lot more fouls to give when we are deep. This will likely be the deepest team since Coach K got here.starters
C Garber
PF Taylor
SG Jon Jon
SG Sanford
PG Antunez Probably Roberts later in the season
Navigato will get starters minutes
Knapke
Dzierzawski
Will play a lot I picked Antunez over Dzierzawski as a starter because in the article when Coach K talked about it in paper he called Antunez a point guard and Dzierzawski a combo guard and after starting a Combo at point all of last year I don't think he will do it again.
RE: Basketball Starting Five Next Season? - pono - 05-09-2016 08:51 PM
Game's changed move on. The old c, pf, SF, SG, pg lineup is long gone. Some NBA teams play part of the game w a 6-8 combo forward who can defend as their only big. Gotta have 3 perimeter scorers at least on the floor. Coach k likes guys who can move the ball cleanly and shoot. He also knows he needs the team to be tougher.
Roberts is the likely pg, coach k loves him, can shoot, handle, a coach's son, leader type. antunez will play and be a fan fave w his court vision and flair dont know if he beats out Roberts and starts tho. and dziewzerkawicz will see time at pg but coach k sounds like he wants him to be instant offense off the bench in a combo guard role. He seems like a gamer so he may be on the floor late.
Who said Sanford is slow? He was just a little freshman cautious and skinny. He will start and be one of our top players. Jonjon will start. Knapke will be versatile because he can protect the rim but has some inside out skills on offense, who knows what his breakout timeline will be. It could take another yr or two - garber was lousy until his 3rd yr, Boothe wasn't great until his 4th. I figure Taylor starts or least finishes. You gotta have your toughest strongest defender and rebounder on the floor in crunch time. Garber plays a lot, Navigato too. Adway should get in the rotation but may be another yr from having his whole game match his athletic potential.
200 minutes per game, something like this if no one gets hurt, Gordon doesn't surprise and we don't get a meaningful late signee, something like...
Roberts 22-24
Antunez 12-14
Dzersuisski 20
Jonjon 30
Sanford 25
Navigato 25
Taylor 24
Garber 20
Knapke 10=12
Adway 6
RE: Basketball Starting Five Next Season? - H2Oville Rocket - 05-09-2016 10:56 PM
(05-09-2016 08:51 PM)pono Wrote: Game's changed move on. The old c, pf, SF, SG, pg lineup is long gone. Some NBA teams play part of the game w a 6-8 combo forward who can defend as their only big. Gotta have 3 perimeter scorers at least on the floor. Coach k likes guys who can move the ball cleanly and shoot. He also knows he needs the team to be tougher.
Roberts is the likely pg, coach k loves him, can shoot, handle, a coach's son, leader type. antunez will play and be a fan fave w his court vision and flair dont know if he beats out Roberts and starts tho. and dziewzerkawicz will see time at pg but coach k sounds like he wants him to be instant offense off the bench in a combo guard role. He seems like a gamer so he may be on the floor late.
Who said Sanford is slow? He was just a little freshman cautious and skinny. He will start and be one of our top players. Jonjon will start. Knapke will be versatile because he can protect the rim but has some inside out skills on offense, who knows what his breakout timeline will be. It could take another yr or two - garber was lousy until his 3rd yr, Boothe wasn't great until his 4th. I figure Taylor starts or least finishes. You gotta have your toughest strongest defender and rebounder on the floor in crunch time. Garber plays a lot, Navigato too. Adway should get in the rotation but may be another yr from having his whole game match his athletic potential.
200 minutes per game, something like this if no one gets hurt, Gordon doesn't surprise and we don't get a meaningful late signee, something like...
Roberts 22-24
Antunez 12-14
Dzersuisski 20
Jonjon 30
Sanford 25
Navigato 25
Taylor 24
Garber 20
Knapke 10=12
Adway 6
Our best defender, Lauf, not getting minutes? If he can get more confidence in his offense I can see him as second guard off the bench or replacing one of the bigs in certain situations. Gordon is a redshirt or this year's Chandler White.
RE: Basketball Starting Five Next Season? - bcunn3128 - 05-10-2016 05:21 AM
I really think we need 9-10 guys getting some minutes every game. The rotation of 7 1/2 guys a game down the stretch last season sapped our energy as the season wound down. If we're only playing 8 guys again this season then it will be time to question our recruiting. But I don't think that will happen. I think 10 guys see playing time every game next season, and TK puts the best match ups on the floor in closing minutes of close games. its a wonderful thing to have options.
RE: Basketball Starting Five Next Season? - DetroitRocket - 05-10-2016 07:46 AM
Who said Sanford is slow?
I didn't say Sanford was slow. Someone said he could start at point guard. Nobody on the team last year could guard quick MAC point guards. That was a big problem. Sanford is a shooting guard.