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RE: Recruit Updates - Seahawkhoops - 10-12-2017 02:58 PM
(10-12-2017 02:25 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote::Looks good thus far. I'd guess he's tapping into many of the guys he had made contact with that just were not at the level of UNC, but could play here. I'm interested in the next few years once that well runs dry.(10-12-2017 05:23 AM)70shawk Wrote: FWIW: Scout.com currently ranks UNCW's 2018 recruiting class @ # 118 in the country.
2018 Basketball Recruiting Team Rankings
That's with only two commitments right? This is a great sign (no pun intended), considering recruitment was one of the areas we were worried there may be considerable drop off from the last coach.
Great work coaches and staff!!!
RE: Recruit Updates - bricksnivy - 10-13-2017 08:12 AM
(10-12-2017 02:58 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:(10-12-2017 02:25 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote::Looks good thus far. I'd guess he's tapping into many of the guys he had made contact with that just were not at the level of UNC, but could play here. I'm interested in the next few years once that well runs dry.(10-12-2017 05:23 AM)70shawk Wrote: FWIW: Scout.com currently ranks UNCW's 2018 recruiting class @ # 118 in the country.
2018 Basketball Recruiting Team Rankings
That's with only two commitments right? This is a great sign (no pun intended), considering recruitment was one of the areas we were worried there may be considerable drop off from the last coach.
Great work coaches and staff!!!
I don't understand why that well would dry. He'll still be recruiting the same circuits, right?
RE: Recruit Updates - Seahawkhoops - 10-13-2017 09:52 AM
(10-13-2017 08:12 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:It's a hell of a lot easier to get a top tier guys interest when you have UNC on your chest Vs, UNCW. So what i'm saying is he might be hitting on guys that were backup plans for UNC recruiting. He has a solid staff, i honestly don't think it will be an issue(10-12-2017 02:58 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:(10-12-2017 02:25 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote::Looks good thus far. I'd guess he's tapping into many of the guys he had made contact with that just were not at the level of UNC, but could play here. I'm interested in the next few years once that well runs dry.(10-12-2017 05:23 AM)70shawk Wrote: FWIW: Scout.com currently ranks UNCW's 2018 recruiting class @ # 118 in the country.
2018 Basketball Recruiting Team Rankings
That's with only two commitments right? This is a great sign (no pun intended), considering recruitment was one of the areas we were worried there may be considerable drop off from the last coach.
Great work coaches and staff!!!
I don't understand why that well would dry. He'll still be recruiting the same circuits, right?
RE: Recruit Updates - bricksnivy - 10-13-2017 09:58 AM
Gotcha. I like what I've seen from Esleeck on the recruiting front.
RE: Recruit Updates - billthebighawksfan - 10-13-2017 02:58 PM
I don't think that it's quite like that guys, but it may not hurt. The good kid out of Charlotte that just verballed was originally a guy that Esleek was looking at while at Mercer for example. He's known as a good recruiter and if you're good, you're good.
RE: Recruit Updates - Gary Miller - 12-19-2017 03:16 PM
Wheatmore HS 6’6 G/F Gavin Rains took an unofficial visit on Saturday. Not much on him but here is what I could find. Say what you want about C.B., but I do like the kids he's recruiting. Long and Athletic for their position, and can stretch the floor (Jeff Gary 2017, Jay Estime 2017) (Jaylen Simms 2018, Kai Toews 2018) Hopefully we can land him, as we could definitely use the depth with size. WINGS UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiU1Rkb1ZVU
RE: Recruit Updates - bricksnivy - 12-19-2017 03:34 PM
(12-19-2017 03:16 PM)Gary Miller Wrote: Wheatmore HS 6’6 G/F Gavin Rains took an unofficial visit on Saturday. Not much on him but here is what I could find. Say what you want about C.B., but I do like the kids he's recruiting. Long and Athletic for their position, and can stretch the floor (Jeff Gary 2017, Jay Estime 2017) (Jaylen Simms 2018, Kai Toews 2018) Hopefully we can land him, as we could definitely use the depth with size. WINGS UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiU1Rkb1ZVU
Any indication if we've offered? Counting Toews and Sims, we still have 4 scholarships open. Simeon Kirkland would be a nice understudy for Cacok!!! No insight, but I assume we'll approach a few transfers as well, juco or grad transfers that can play right away. We still need more depth inside, and Richmond's dismisal and Talley graduating, we'll need a PG to pair with Toews.
RE: Recruit Updates - Seahawkhoops - 12-19-2017 03:43 PM
(12-19-2017 03:34 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:Do you not think Gary will be a solid PG going forward?(12-19-2017 03:16 PM)Gary Miller Wrote: Wheatmore HS 6’6 G/F Gavin Rains took an unofficial visit on Saturday. Not much on him but here is what I could find. Say what you want about C.B., but I do like the kids he's recruiting. Long and Athletic for their position, and can stretch the floor (Jeff Gary 2017, Jay Estime 2017) (Jaylen Simms 2018, Kai Toews 2018) Hopefully we can land him, as we could definitely use the depth with size. WINGS UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiU1Rkb1ZVU
Any indication if we've offered? Counting Toews and Sims, we still have 4 scholarships open. Simeon Kirkland would be a nice understudy for Cacok!!! No insight, but I assume we'll approach a few transfers as well, juco or grad transfers that can play right away. We still need more depth inside, and Richmond's dismisal and Talley graduating, we'll need a PG to pair with Toews.
RE: Recruit Updates - Gary Miller - 12-19-2017 04:19 PM
(12-19-2017 03:43 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:(12-19-2017 03:34 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:Do you not think Gary will be a solid PG going forward?(12-19-2017 03:16 PM)Gary Miller Wrote: Wheatmore HS 6’6 G/F Gavin Rains took an unofficial visit on Saturday. Not much on him but here is what I could find. Say what you want about C.B., but I do like the kids he's recruiting. Long and Athletic for their position, and can stretch the floor (Jeff Gary 2017, Jay Estime 2017) (Jaylen Simms 2018, Kai Toews 2018) Hopefully we can land him, as we could definitely use the depth with size. WINGS UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiU1Rkb1ZVU
Any indication if we've offered? Counting Toews and Sims, we still have 4 scholarships open. Simeon Kirkland would be a nice understudy for Cacok!!! No insight, but I assume we'll approach a few transfers as well, juco or grad transfers that can play right away. We still need more depth inside, and Richmond's dismisal and Talley graduating, we'll need a PG to pair with Toews.
No indication whether or not we offered. I don't see any indication that we have, but has to mean something to have a kid in for an unofficial. Phenom Hoops has him as having no D-1 offers as of last spring, but D1 potential. As for another PG, I see Jeff Gary as being capable of being the starter next year, however his jumpshot and height could allow him to play off the ball as well. His length on defense has been the main reason for his increased playing time, even prior to the Richmond dismissal. So I don't see them bringing in another PG. Also, I don't see any indication that Simeon Kirkland is on the new staffs radar. He was offered by previous staff. He does seem very talented though. Jack Hemphill was a top guy for the new staff and he recently committed/signed to Boston University. I think the focus going forward is going to be size, with Bryan graduating, also wouldn't be surprised if Cacok tested professional waters.
RE: Recruit Updates - jumpinmullet - 12-19-2017 04:40 PM
If a player comes in on a visit they are all most always going to be offered-why waste the time? Cacok will have to really go crazy from here on out to think about going pro -if you are talking NBA. I think he has a legit shot at the NBA but he will have to show that he can make a jump shot from at least 18ft to get a real look. I think he can get there and if he does that would make a absolute beast in the CAA next season. No question about it-he should stay.
I also agree with Bill on recruiting players,some guys can and some can't. Looks like these guys can and I think they will. Its 80% about the players you bring in and the other 50% -who knows!
RE: Recruit Updates - Gary Miller - 12-19-2017 05:57 PM
(12-19-2017 04:40 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote: If a player comes in on a visit they are all most always going to be offered-why waste the time? Cacok will have to really go crazy from here on out to think about going pro -if you are talking NBA. I think he has a legit shot at the NBA but he will have to show that he can make a jump shot from at least 18ft to get a real look. I think he can get there and if he does that would make a absolute beast in the CAA next season. No question about it-he should stay.
I also agree with Bill on recruiting players,some guys can and some can't. Looks like these guys can and I think they will. Its 80% about the players you bring in and the other 50% -who knows!
I wasn't speaking NBA, necessarily. However, I do agree with you 100 percent on that he is capable of being that kind of talent with further development. I don't think it's likely he tests the pro waters, I just think its something as fans we should keep in mind. It is not unfathomable that if he ends this year with 20+ dbl/dbls, a conference player of the year, and top 20 in the NCAA in several categories that he does. I mean what else would he have left to accomplish on the collegiate level... He can further develop in the G League while also getting a paycheck.
RE: Recruit Updates - Seahawk2010 - 12-20-2017 08:02 AM
(12-19-2017 03:34 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:(12-19-2017 03:16 PM)Gary Miller Wrote: Wheatmore HS 6’6 G/F Gavin Rains took an unofficial visit on Saturday. Not much on him but here is what I could find. Say what you want about C.B., but I do like the kids he's recruiting. Long and Athletic for their position, and can stretch the floor (Jeff Gary 2017, Jay Estime 2017) (Jaylen Simms 2018, Kai Toews 2018) Hopefully we can land him, as we could definitely use the depth with size. WINGS UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiU1Rkb1ZVU
Any indication if we've offered? Counting Toews and Sims, we still have 4 scholarships open. Simeon Kirkland would be a nice understudy for Cacok!!! No insight, but I assume we'll approach a few transfers as well, juco or grad transfers that can play right away. We still need more depth inside, and Richmond's dismisal and Talley graduating, we'll need a PG to pair with Toews.
Need an experienced big to start with Cacok. A Grad Transfer or Juco is a must, would prefer Grad Transfer since Jucos are hit or miss.
I really wish we had Mwaldo Sallah, the Grad transfer from Mount St Marys that originally comitted to us.
RE: Recruit Updates - bricksnivy - 12-20-2017 09:52 AM
(12-19-2017 03:16 PM)Gary Miller Wrote: Wheatmore HS 6’6 G/F Gavin Rains took an unofficial visit on Saturday. Not much on him but here is what I could find. Say what you want about C.B., but I do like the kids he's recruiting. Long and Athletic for their position, and can stretch the floor (Jeff Gary 2017, Jay Estime 2017) (Jaylen Simms 2018, Kai Toews 2018) Hopefully we can land him, as we could definitely use the depth with size. WINGS UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiU1Rkb1ZVU
I noticed that Rains is class of '19.
RE: Recruit Updates - ml1323 - 12-20-2017 01:51 PM
(12-20-2017 08:02 AM)Seahawk2010 Wrote:(12-19-2017 03:34 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:(12-19-2017 03:16 PM)Gary Miller Wrote: Wheatmore HS 6’6 G/F Gavin Rains took an unofficial visit on Saturday. Not much on him but here is what I could find. Say what you want about C.B., but I do like the kids he's recruiting. Long and Athletic for their position, and can stretch the floor (Jeff Gary 2017, Jay Estime 2017) (Jaylen Simms 2018, Kai Toews 2018) Hopefully we can land him, as we could definitely use the depth with size. WINGS UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiU1Rkb1ZVU
Any indication if we've offered? Counting Toews and Sims, we still have 4 scholarships open. Simeon Kirkland would be a nice understudy for Cacok!!! No insight, but I assume we'll approach a few transfers as well, juco or grad transfers that can play right away. We still need more depth inside, and Richmond's dismisal and Talley graduating, we'll need a PG to pair with Toews.
Need an experienced big to start with Cacok. A Grad Transfer or Juco is a must, would prefer Grad Transfer since Jucos are hit or miss.
I really wish we had Mwaldo Sallah, the Grad transfer from Mount St Marys that originally comitted to us.
Depending on how good Elmore is when he comes back, we could be set at the F/C with those two and Jean Cylla becoming eligible next year. Although, I’ve never been one to believe the listed heights and weights, considering Nick Powell apparently grew 2 inches last year, so Cylla may be smaller than he’s listed. One more big is probably necessary, I just don’t want anyone transferring due to lack of PT.
Losing Sallah hurt us a lot, and looking at his minutes for Kansas State I really wish he had stayed here, because that’s two years of a high quality front court with lots of playing time for him. But, given the choice between us and a P5 school with all their resources, and the opportunity to play the likes of Kansas and Texas and Baylor, I’m not shocked.
Did we pick up Kalina after we lost Sallah? Is that the reason he’s on this roster?
RE: Recruit Updates - SEA33HAWK - 12-20-2017 01:55 PM
Powell does seem to be a little taller. Not sure about 2".
RE: Recruit Updates - Gary Miller - 01-12-2018 11:42 AM
6'7 '19 Gavin Rains (Wheatmore HS, NC) had a monster game in win over Central Davidson.
35 points
16 rebounds
4 blocks
3 steals
Same kid we had in on an Unofficial Visit a few weeks back.
RE: Recruit Updates - SEA33HAWK - 01-12-2018 03:31 PM
So I take it that right now we still have two hard commits. Jaylen Sims (6'6" SG) and Kai Teows (6'2" PG). Have I missed any other commits or serious recruits?
RE: Recruit Updates - Seahawk Nation 08 - 01-12-2018 03:35 PM
(01-12-2018 03:31 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote: So I take it that right now we still have two hard commits. Jaylen Sims (6'6" SG) and Kai Teows (6'2" PG). Have I missed any other commits or serious recruits?
Correct.
Verbalcommits.com is an excellent website for keeping up with our recruiting, both for the upcoming year AND future years:
http://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/uncw
RE: Recruit Updates - Gary Miller - 01-12-2018 03:56 PM
(01-12-2018 03:35 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:(01-12-2018 03:31 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote: So I take it that right now we still have two hard commits. Jaylen Sims (6'6" SG) and Kai Teows (6'2" PG). Have I missed any other commits or serious recruits?
Correct.
Verbalcommits.com is an excellent website for keeping up with our recruiting, both for the upcoming year AND future years:
http://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/uncw
I don't think Kirkland and Cannon-Flores are still recruits. They were recruited by the previous staff. Also, I think we now have 3 open scholarships for next year with Richmond's dismissal. Will be interesting to see how they use those.
RE: Recruit Updates - Seahawkhoops - 01-12-2018 04:00 PM
(01-12-2018 03:56 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:I'd like to see a solid JUCO with one of those. I'm curious what coach thinks of them because if i'm not mistaken it's rare at his previous employer to get JUCOs(01-12-2018 03:35 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:(01-12-2018 03:31 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote: So I take it that right now we still have two hard commits. Jaylen Sims (6'6" SG) and Kai Teows (6'2" PG). Have I missed any other commits or serious recruits?
Correct.
Verbalcommits.com is an excellent website for keeping up with our recruiting, both for the upcoming year AND future years:
http://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/uncw
I don't think Kirkland and Cannon-Flores are still recruits. They were recruited by the previous staff. Also, I think we now have 3 open scholarships for next year with Richmond's dismissal. Will be interesting to see how they use those.