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RE: Basketball Recruit Updates - billthebighawksfan - 07-03-2021 11:50 AM
6’ 10” sounds good to me!
Basketball Recruit Updates - B_Hawk06 - 07-03-2021 12:52 PM
Just happy to see that size is continually being addressed. That was our big worry for a while. Sure, there’s a little girth issue in there on a couple of them, but having some length in the 4 and 5 spots should help us out a lot.
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RE: Basketball Recruit Updates - billthebighawksfan - 07-03-2021 02:24 PM
Heck, just having guys willing and able to do work down low is big.
RE: Basketball Recruit Updates - billthebighawksfan - 07-03-2021 09:16 PM
Logan has game for sure!
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/9432989/5abc1617ff01cd0adc822f92
RE: Basketball Recruit Updates - 82hawk - 07-04-2021 06:15 AM
(07-03-2021 12:52 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote: Just happy to see that size is continually being addressed. That was our big worry for a while. Sure, there’s a little girth issue in there on a couple of them, but having some length in the 4 and 5 spots should help us out a lot.
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I'm not worried about the "girth" of the players he's going after as big men, because it's obvious to me Siddle doesn't want big men with girth...or he'd be recruting them. And the fact his big men have height, but aren't heavy, points to a style of play that is going to be really fast paced with a lot of fast transitions from offense to defense and visa versa. Rather than worry about the lack of girth for our big men, i'm ready to see what his vision is for this team on the court.
If we are going to press alot, leaving a big man at the back of the press, quickness and length are needed to defend if the press gets broken, not girth. And our offense has never run through the post, so the ability for our bigs to establish position and post up doesn't happen much on offense.
So that just leaves defense in a half court set where our big men could get muscled around. Seems like a case of give and take, and he's willing to give that up for all the other benefits of having mobile big men who can run the court. So, it will really become a matter of who controls the pace of a game. Under Keatts, we were generally able to control the pace of the game to our advantage, and right now Siddle has more of the prototype players to run a high paced press and fast break than Keatts did. Loads of 6'5"/6'6" guys who can transition, and the depth to apply pressure and run the entire game.
The depth will also allow him to find his best offensive weapons in his mostly new roster, then use the press to create offense when those players sit to rest or due to foul trouble.
RE: Basketball Recruit Updates - 82hawk - 07-04-2021 06:47 AM
Without too much knowledge of the new guys coming in, what are our thoughts on who may start and get the most PT? My starters and backups(which means we'd better press A LOT, so we don't lose players due to lack of PT!). On paper, this roster is a huge upgrade from last year(before injuries). A lot more size and depth at every position. And except for the 5 spot, four guys who played and started last year in the 1-4 spots. Also, loaded with upperclassmen. These backups also allow some younger guys to develop and put us in a good position for the next few years. My sleeper player is McCracken. I like his overall game and aggressiveness and I think he's going to earn PT with his play.
PG - Phillips 6'0/175lbs, Thomas 6'0/185 lbs.
2 - Okauru 6'3"/185 lbs, Estime 6'5'/185 lbs
3 - Harvey 6'5"/175 lbs., McCracken 6'5"/180 lbs.
4- Sims 6'6"/195 lbs., Baker 6'7"/205 lbs.
5- Kelly 6'9"/230 lbs, Samb 6'8"/200 lbs
I'm concerned about Fornes, having heard about the injuries and surgeries since he left, so i'm not putting him in as starting or back up at this point.
RE: Basketball Recruit Updates - Seahawkhoops - 07-04-2021 07:48 AM
(07-04-2021 06:15 AM)82hawk Wrote:You constantly reference KK teams, but fail to recognize that he had a 6'8 240 pounder that made the difference, a big difference. WE definitely need a guy or two to add some muscle, you can choose to ignore it, but it's a fact. And just for reference the last KK team there were two other bigs over 220 that played minutes as well.(07-03-2021 12:52 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote: Just happy to see that size is continually being addressed. That was our big worry for a while. Sure, there’s a little girth issue in there on a couple of them, but having some length in the 4 and 5 spots should help us out a lot.
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I'm not worried about the "girth" of the players he's going after as big men, because it's obvious to me Siddle doesn't want big men with girth...or he'd be recruting them. And the fact his big men have height, but aren't heavy, points to a style of play that is going to be really fast paced with a lot of fast transitions from offense to defense and visa versa. Rather than worry about the lack of girth for our big men, i'm ready to see what his vision is for this team on the court.
If we are going to press alot, leaving a big man at the back of the press, quickness and length are needed to defend if the press gets broken, not girth. And our offense has never run through the post, so the ability for our bigs to establish position and post up doesn't happen much on offense.
So that just leaves defense in a half court set where our big men could get muscled around. Seems like a case of give and take, and he's willing to give that up for all the other benefits of having mobile big men who can run the court. So, it will really become a matter of who controls the pace of a game. Under Keatts, we were generally able to control the pace of the game to our advantage, and right now Siddle has more of the prototype players to run a high paced press and fast break than Keatts did. Loads of 6'5"/6'6" guys who can transition, and the depth to apply pressure and run the entire game.
The depth will also allow him to find his best offensive weapons in his mostly new roster, then use the press to create offense when those players sit to rest or due to foul trouble.
RE: Basketball Recruit Updates - billthebighawksfan - 07-04-2021 08:19 AM
Hard to say who gets minutes. Alec Oglesby definitely needs to be considered because he can absolutely shoot the lights out of it. Who knows, even the guy that just signed up may get a look too and he can drill it. Defensive prowess will factor in too. Need a combo.
Kelly has the size that you were looking for and is 230-240. The other 2 are not as heavy but may work out fine overall. I would love to see some rejections myself!
RE: Basketball Recruit Updates - 82hawk - 07-04-2021 09:45 AM
(07-04-2021 07:48 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:(07-04-2021 06:15 AM)82hawk Wrote:You constantly reference KK teams, but fail to recognize that he had a 6'8 240 pounder that made the difference, a big difference. WE definitely need a guy or two to add some muscle, you can choose to ignore it, but it's a fact. And just for reference the last KK team there were two other bigs over 220 that played minutes as well.(07-03-2021 12:52 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote: Just happy to see that size is continually being addressed. That was our big worry for a while. Sure, there’s a little girth issue in there on a couple of them, but having some length in the 4 and 5 spots should help us out a lot.
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I'm not worried about the "girth" of the players he's going after as big men, because it's obvious to me Siddle doesn't want big men with girth...or he'd be recruting them. And the fact his big men have height, but aren't heavy, points to a style of play that is going to be really fast paced with a lot of fast transitions from offense to defense and visa versa. Rather than worry about the lack of girth for our big men, i'm ready to see what his vision is for this team on the court.
If we are going to press alot, leaving a big man at the back of the press, quickness and length are needed to defend if the press gets broken, not girth. And our offense has never run through the post, so the ability for our bigs to establish position and post up doesn't happen much on offense.
So that just leaves defense in a half court set where our big men could get muscled around. Seems like a case of give and take, and he's willing to give that up for all the other benefits of having mobile big men who can run the court. So, it will really become a matter of who controls the pace of a game. Under Keatts, we were generally able to control the pace of the game to our advantage, and right now Siddle has more of the prototype players to run a high paced press and fast break than Keatts did. Loads of 6'5"/6'6" guys who can transition, and the depth to apply pressure and run the entire game.
The depth will also allow him to find his best offensive weapons in his mostly new roster, then use the press to create offense when those players sit to rest or due to foul trouble.
Your opinion isn't a "fact, it's an opinion. We will see if we need a guy or two to add some muscle. The only "fact", is that Siddle is not recruiting big men who weigh a lot, that's an actual fact. It's an OPINION that this may be a problem. We'll see, and i'm willing to wait and see if it's an actual problem or not. Siddle may play a style similar, but different, than Keatts did.
RE: Basketball Recruit Updates - Seahawkhoops - 07-04-2021 12:59 PM
(07-04-2021 09:45 AM)82hawk Wrote:I laid out the facts my friend, the top teams in the league last year had them, KK teams had them. #facts, you don't like them because they don't line up with your opinion. I'm sure one or a few of those guys will be able to pack on some muscle, but we will see if it hurts us next year without. Having some size with no girth next year is better than no size at all. I'm willing to wait and see as well, but to ignore the history is foolish.(07-04-2021 07:48 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:(07-04-2021 06:15 AM)82hawk Wrote:You constantly reference KK teams, but fail to recognize that he had a 6'8 240 pounder that made the difference, a big difference. WE definitely need a guy or two to add some muscle, you can choose to ignore it, but it's a fact. And just for reference the last KK team there were two other bigs over 220 that played minutes as well.(07-03-2021 12:52 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote: Just happy to see that size is continually being addressed. That was our big worry for a while. Sure, there’s a little girth issue in there on a couple of them, but having some length in the 4 and 5 spots should help us out a lot.
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I'm not worried about the "girth" of the players he's going after as big men, because it's obvious to me Siddle doesn't want big men with girth...or he'd be recruting them. And the fact his big men have height, but aren't heavy, points to a style of play that is going to be really fast paced with a lot of fast transitions from offense to defense and visa versa. Rather than worry about the lack of girth for our big men, i'm ready to see what his vision is for this team on the court.
If we are going to press alot, leaving a big man at the back of the press, quickness and length are needed to defend if the press gets broken, not girth. And our offense has never run through the post, so the ability for our bigs to establish position and post up doesn't happen much on offense.
So that just leaves defense in a half court set where our big men could get muscled around. Seems like a case of give and take, and he's willing to give that up for all the other benefits of having mobile big men who can run the court. So, it will really become a matter of who controls the pace of a game. Under Keatts, we were generally able to control the pace of the game to our advantage, and right now Siddle has more of the prototype players to run a high paced press and fast break than Keatts did. Loads of 6'5"/6'6" guys who can transition, and the depth to apply pressure and run the entire game.
The depth will also allow him to find his best offensive weapons in his mostly new roster, then use the press to create offense when those players sit to rest or due to foul trouble.
Your opinion isn't a "fact, it's an opinion. We will see if we need a guy or two to add some muscle. The only "fact", is that Siddle is not recruiting big men who weigh a lot, that's an actual fact. It's an OPINION that this may be a problem. We'll see, and i'm willing to wait and see if it's an actual problem or not. Siddle may play a style similar, but different, than Keatts did.
RE: Basketball Recruit Updates - SEA33HAWK - 07-04-2021 01:44 PM
Is this the girth you speak of when referring to the team picked to win the CAA?
Justin
Amadi
F
6'7" 220 lbs Fr. Undeclared
Greenville, S.C. Paul M. Dorman
0
Devon
Savage
G
6'4" 190 lbs Fr.
Washington, D.C. Riverdale Baptist
1
Jaylen
Stinson
G
6'0" 170 lbs Fr.
Philadelphia, Pa. Archbishop Wood Catholic
2
Andrew
McConnell
G
6'0" 170 lbs Fr.
Buford, Ga. Lanier
3
Vado
Morse
G
6'0" 170 lbs Jr. Sport and Recreation Management
Suitland, Md. Mount St. Mary's
4
Terrence
Edwards
G/F
6'6" 190 lbs Fr. Marketing
Atlanta, Ga. Tucker
5
Terell
Strickland
G
6'0" 170 lbs Fr. Psychology
Tampa, Fla. Scotland Campus Sports
10
Charles
Falden
G
6'3" 210 lbs Gr.
Richmond, Va. Winthrop
11
Tyce
McNair
G
6'1" 190 lbs Fr. Computer Science
McGaheysville, Va. East Rockingham
12
Jalen
Hodge
G
6'1" 180 lbs Jr. Sport and Recreation Management
O'Fallon, Ill. Louisiana Monroe
13
Tyree
Ihenacho
G
6'4" 195 lbs So.
Prior Lake, Minn. North Dakota
14
Takal
Molson
G
6'4" 210 lbs Jr.
Buffalo, N.Y. Seton Hall
15
Hollman
Smith
G
6'0" 180 lbs Fr. Political Science
Falls Church, Va. Tilton School
21
Julien
Wooden
F
6'8" 225 lbs So. Sport and Recreation Management
Roanoke, Va. Northside
22
Alonzo
Sule
F
6'7" 215 lbs Jr.
Houston, Texas Texas State
25
RE: Basketball Recruit Updates - billthebighawksfan - 07-04-2021 02:32 PM
The Huskies are a different story however.
Basketball Recruit Updates - Seahawkhoops - 07-04-2021 11:39 PM
(07-04-2021 01:44 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote: Is this the girth you speak of when referring to the team picked to win the CAA?
Justin
Amadi
F
6'7" 220 lbs Fr. Undeclared
Greenville, S.C. Paul M. Dorman
0
Devon
Savage
G
6'4" 190 lbs Fr.
Washington, D.C. Riverdale Baptist
1
Jaylen
Stinson
G
6'0" 170 lbs Fr.
Philadelphia, Pa. Archbishop Wood Catholic
2
Andrew
McConnell
G
6'0" 170 lbs Fr.
Buford, Ga. Lanier
3
Vado
Morse
G
6'0" 170 lbs Jr. Sport and Recreation Management
Suitland, Md. Mount St. Mary's
4
Terrence
Edwards
G/F
6'6" 190 lbs Fr. Marketing
Atlanta, Ga. Tucker
5
Terell
Strickland
G
6'0" 170 lbs Fr. Psychology
Tampa, Fla. Scotland Campus Sports
10
Charles
Falden
G
6'3" 210 lbs Gr.
Richmond, Va. Winthrop
11
Tyce
McNair
G
6'1" 190 lbs Fr. Computer Science
McGaheysville, Va. East Rockingham
12
Jalen
Hodge
G
6'1" 180 lbs Jr. Sport and Recreation Management
O'Fallon, Ill. Louisiana Monroe
13
Tyree
Ihenacho
G
6'4" 195 lbs So.
Prior Lake, Minn. North Dakota
14
Takal
Molson
G
6'4" 210 lbs Jr.
Buffalo, N.Y. Seton Hall
15
Hollman
Smith
G
6'0" 180 lbs Fr. Political Science
Falls Church, Va. Tilton School
21
Julien
Wooden
F
6'8" 225 lbs So. Sport and Recreation Management
Roanoke, Va. Northside
22
Alonzo
Sule
F
6'7" 215 lbs Jr.
Houston, Texas Texas State
25
Three guys over 215. We look like Ethiopian’s compared to them lol
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RE: Basketball Recruit Updates - 82hawk - 07-05-2021 06:29 AM
(07-04-2021 11:39 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:(07-04-2021 01:44 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote: Is this the girth you speak of when referring to the team picked to win the CAA?
Justin
Amadi
F
6'7" 220 lbs Fr. Undeclared
Greenville, S.C. Paul M. Dorman
0
Devon
Savage
G
6'4" 190 lbs Fr.
Washington, D.C. Riverdale Baptist
1
Jaylen
Stinson
G
6'0" 170 lbs Fr.
Philadelphia, Pa. Archbishop Wood Catholic
2
Andrew
McConnell
G
6'0" 170 lbs Fr.
Buford, Ga. Lanier
3
Vado
Morse
G
6'0" 170 lbs Jr. Sport and Recreation Management
Suitland, Md. Mount St. Mary's
4
Terrence
Edwards
G/F
6'6" 190 lbs Fr. Marketing
Atlanta, Ga. Tucker
5
Terell
Strickland
G
6'0" 170 lbs Fr. Psychology
Tampa, Fla. Scotland Campus Sports
10
Charles
Falden
G
6'3" 210 lbs Gr.
Richmond, Va. Winthrop
11
Tyce
McNair
G
6'1" 190 lbs Fr. Computer Science
McGaheysville, Va. East Rockingham
12
Jalen
Hodge
G
6'1" 180 lbs Jr. Sport and Recreation Management
O'Fallon, Ill. Louisiana Monroe
13
Tyree
Ihenacho
G
6'4" 195 lbs So.
Prior Lake, Minn. North Dakota
14
Takal
Molson
G
6'4" 210 lbs Jr.
Buffalo, N.Y. Seton Hall
15
Hollman
Smith
G
6'0" 180 lbs Fr. Political Science
Falls Church, Va. Tilton School
21
Julien
Wooden
F
6'8" 225 lbs So. Sport and Recreation Management
Roanoke, Va. Northside
22
Alonzo
Sule
F
6'7" 215 lbs Jr.
Houston, Texas Texas State
25
Three guys over 215. We look like Ethiopian’s compared to them lol
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And they look like Liliputians compared to UNCW, lol.
JMU/15 players - 6'4" and under - 11 and 7 of them are 6'1" and under
UNCW/13 players - 6'4" and under - 4 and 2 are 6'1" and under.
RE: Basketball Recruit Updates - Seahawkhoops - 07-05-2021 07:20 AM
(07-05-2021 06:29 AM)82hawk Wrote:I've said many times i'm happy that we got some size. Let's let it play out. Hopefully the lack of beef won't burn us(07-04-2021 11:39 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:(07-04-2021 01:44 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote: Is this the girth you speak of when referring to the team picked to win the CAA?
Justin
Amadi
F
6'7" 220 lbs Fr. Undeclared
Greenville, S.C. Paul M. Dorman
0
Devon
Savage
G
6'4" 190 lbs Fr.
Washington, D.C. Riverdale Baptist
1
Jaylen
Stinson
G
6'0" 170 lbs Fr.
Philadelphia, Pa. Archbishop Wood Catholic
2
Andrew
McConnell
G
6'0" 170 lbs Fr.
Buford, Ga. Lanier
3
Vado
Morse
G
6'0" 170 lbs Jr. Sport and Recreation Management
Suitland, Md. Mount St. Mary's
4
Terrence
Edwards
G/F
6'6" 190 lbs Fr. Marketing
Atlanta, Ga. Tucker
5
Terell
Strickland
G
6'0" 170 lbs Fr. Psychology
Tampa, Fla. Scotland Campus Sports
10
Charles
Falden
G
6'3" 210 lbs Gr.
Richmond, Va. Winthrop
11
Tyce
McNair
G
6'1" 190 lbs Fr. Computer Science
McGaheysville, Va. East Rockingham
12
Jalen
Hodge
G
6'1" 180 lbs Jr. Sport and Recreation Management
O'Fallon, Ill. Louisiana Monroe
13
Tyree
Ihenacho
G
6'4" 195 lbs So.
Prior Lake, Minn. North Dakota
14
Takal
Molson
G
6'4" 210 lbs Jr.
Buffalo, N.Y. Seton Hall
15
Hollman
Smith
G
6'0" 180 lbs Fr. Political Science
Falls Church, Va. Tilton School
21
Julien
Wooden
F
6'8" 225 lbs So. Sport and Recreation Management
Roanoke, Va. Northside
22
Alonzo
Sule
F
6'7" 215 lbs Jr.
Houston, Texas Texas State
25
Three guys over 215. We look like Ethiopian’s compared to them lol
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And they look like Liliputians compared to UNCW, lol.
JMU/15 players - 6'4" and under - 11 and 7 of them are 6'1" and under
UNCW/13 players - 6'4" and under - 4 and 2 are 6'1" and under.
RE: Basketball Recruit Updates - 70shawk - 07-05-2021 07:27 AM
(07-05-2021 07:20 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: I've said many times i'm happy that we got some size. Let's let it play out. Hopefully the lack of beef won't burn us
In previous regimes, 'lack of beef' was remedied by beefing players up. Last year was so bizarre (in so many ways) that Coach had not actually even met (in person) players he had signed, much less had them in the weight rooms putting on muscle.
It will be interesting to see what this roster dresses out as when late fall comes around.
RE: Basketball Recruit Updates - Seahawkhoops - 07-05-2021 07:29 AM
(07-05-2021 07:27 AM)70shawk Wrote:For sure.(07-05-2021 07:20 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: I've said many times i'm happy that we got some size. Let's let it play out. Hopefully the lack of beef won't burn us
In previous regimes, 'lack of beef' was remedied by beefing players up. Last year was so bizarre (in so many ways) that Coach had not actually even met (in person) players he had signed, much less had them in the weight rooms putting on muscle.
It will be interesting to see what this roster dresses out as when late fall comes around.
RE: Basketball Recruit Updates - 82hawk - 07-12-2021 06:05 PM
7/12/2021 2022 PF Xavier Amos (6-8, -, 2★) has received an offer from UNCW.
RE: Basketball Recruit Updates - 70shawk - 07-14-2021 10:31 AM
Nice Jarmari Thomas reference:
https://www.fayobserver.com/in-depth/sports/high-school/2021/07/12/nc-high-school-sports-creative-content-north-carolina-millbrook-burlington-school-eastern-alamance/5345777001/
(UNCW's SID could take a few cues from this, by the way...)
RE: Basketball Recruit Updates - Gary Miller - 07-14-2021 05:30 PM
UNCW lands it's first commitment of the 2022 class with Noah Ross, a 6'6" G/F out of Trinity Academy in Raleigh. Held offers from Tulsa, CofC, UNCG, Winthrop, Mercer, Wofford, Western Carolina, ETSU plus several other schools. Considered one of the top shooters in NC.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/noah-ross-269133
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtqtPQviLYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcT27G0_240
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ-UnqA2fhw
https://twitter.com/TAR_Basketball/status/1369741502579146765?s=20