(07-16-2014 09:41 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  somebody should go tell the writer for Southern that he is nuts, and arrogant, and those kind of predictions are absurd...

(07-16-2014 09:48 AM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 09:41 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  somebody should go tell the writer for Southern that he is nuts, and arrogant, and those kind of predictions are absurd...

From the post...
The season will be a success if ... the Eagles flirt with an eight-win season. They're not eligible for a bowl game until 2015, but they can win the Sun Belt title this year.

That kool-aid must have come straight from the "beautiful" creek

(07-16-2014 10:23 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  He's been saying that about Southern for a while. His overall outlook for the SBC was something like.

"South Alabama is excellent, ULM is dangerous, and Troy and Georgia Southern will challenge for the title, but ultimately the SBC Championship should come down to the Arkansas State at Louisiana Lafayette showdown on Oct 21st."

He's been really pushing how good the Eagles can be. I will admit, not playing stAte or ULL is a huge advantage. Realistically, the only conference game that looks like a likely loss for the Eagles is their early season trip to Mobile. That being said, the home games against Troy, ULM, and App are virtual land mines that could cause a ton of problems if they are having trouble adjusting to FBS depth.

(07-16-2014 10:30 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 10:23 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  He's been saying that about Southern for a while. His overall outlook for the SBC was something like.

"South Alabama is excellent, ULM is dangerous, and Troy and Georgia Southern will challenge for the title, but ultimately the SBC Championship should come down to the Arkansas State at Louisiana Lafayette showdown on Oct 21st."

He's been really pushing how good the Eagles can be. I will admit, not playing stAte or ULL is a huge advantage. Realistically, the only conference game that looks like a likely loss for the Eagles is their early season trip to Mobile. That being said, the home games against Troy, ULM, and App are virtual land mines that could cause a ton of problems if they are having trouble adjusting to FBS depth.

This. I think he hit the nail on the head. Our first conference game against USA in Mobile will tell the rest of the conference a lot about what they can expect from us this season. It will be our 4th game so by then the offensive kinks should have been worked out. I'm not predicting 8-4 like that guy, but I'm not going to say its out of the realm of possibility.

To be honest, most of the games on our schedule because of who we play and WHERE we play them have me doing this:

(07-16-2014 10:52 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 10:30 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 10:23 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  He's been saying that about Southern for a while. His overall outlook for the SBC was something like.

"South Alabama is excellent, ULM is dangerous, and Troy and Georgia Southern will challenge for the title, but ultimately the SBC Championship should come down to the Arkansas State at Louisiana Lafayette showdown on Oct 21st."

He's been really pushing how good the Eagles can be. I will admit, not playing stAte or ULL is a huge advantage. Realistically, the only conference game that looks like a likely loss for the Eagles is their early season trip to Mobile. That being said, the home games against Troy, ULM, and App are virtual land mines that could cause a ton of problems if they are having trouble adjusting to FBS depth.

This. I think he hit the nail on the head. Our first conference game against USA in Mobile will tell the rest of the conference a lot about what they can expect from us this season. It will be our 4th game so by then the offensive kinks should have been worked out. I'm not predicting 8-4 like that guy, but I'm not going to say its out of the realm of possibility.

To be honest, most of the games on our schedule because of who we play and WHERE we play them have me doing this:

Hard to find anyone out there that does not think AppSt and GaSt are going to be very, very solid FBS programs.

This year however is going to be a shock for their fan's and not in a positive way.

GaSt is the only SBC team that should not handle both with relative ease.

Simply do not have the FBS depth to be a factor, except in an upset, and that probably only happens if the other team takes a win for granted. The depth required at every position to be successful over a season of FBS football is something FCS fans simply cannot grasp.

In fact that has been the downfall of a number of good SBC teams that have started out like gang busters , then faded down the stretch and I still question the quality of their depth.

(07-16-2014 10:52 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 10:30 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 10:23 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  He's been saying that about Southern for a while. His overall outlook for the SBC was something like.

"South Alabama is excellent, ULM is dangerous, and Troy and Georgia Southern will challenge for the title, but ultimately the SBC Championship should come down to the Arkansas State at Louisiana Lafayette showdown on Oct 21st."

He's been really pushing how good the Eagles can be. I will admit, not playing stAte or ULL is a huge advantage. Realistically, the only conference game that looks like a likely loss for the Eagles is their early season trip to Mobile. That being said, the home games against Troy, ULM, and App are virtual land mines that could cause a ton of problems if they are having trouble adjusting to FBS depth.

This. I think he hit the nail on the head. Our first conference game against USA in Mobile will tell the rest of the conference a lot about what they can expect from us this season. It will be our 4th game so by then the offensive kinks should have been worked out. I'm not predicting 8-4 like that guy, but I'm not going to say its out of the realm of possibility.

To be honest, most of the games on our schedule because of who we play and WHERE we play them have me doing this:

Hard to find anyone out there that does not think AppSt and GaSt are going to be very, very solid FBS programs.

This year however is going to be a shock for their fan's and not in a positive way.

GaSt is the only SBC team that should not handle both with relative ease.

Simply do not have the FBS depth to be a factor, except in an upset, and that probably only happens if the other team takes a win for granted. The depth required at every position to be successful over a season of FBS football is something FCS fans simply cannot grasp.

In fact that has been the downfall of a number of good SBC teams that have started out like gang busters , then faded down the stretch and I still question the quality of their depth.

(07-16-2014 11:34 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  All the talk has me expecting a lot from the newbies.

(07-16-2014 10:52 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Hard to find anyone out there that does not think AppSt and GaSt are going to be very, very solid FBS programs.

This year however is going to be a shock for their fan's and not in a positive way.

GaSt is the only SBC team that should not handle both with relative ease.

Simply do not have the FBS depth to be a factor, except in an upset, and that probably only happens if the other team takes a win for granted. The depth required at every position to be successful over a season of FBS football is something FCS fans simply cannot grasp.

In fact that has been the downfall of a number of good SBC teams that have started out like gang busters , then faded down the stretch and I still question the quality of their depth.

(07-16-2014 10:52 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 10:30 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 10:23 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  He's been saying that about Southern for a while. His overall outlook for the SBC was something like.

"South Alabama is excellent, ULM is dangerous, and Troy and Georgia Southern will challenge for the title, but ultimately the SBC Championship should come down to the Arkansas State at Louisiana Lafayette showdown on Oct 21st."

He's been really pushing how good the Eagles can be. I will admit, not playing stAte or ULL is a huge advantage. Realistically, the only conference game that looks like a likely loss for the Eagles is their early season trip to Mobile. That being said, the home games against Troy, ULM, and App are virtual land mines that could cause a ton of problems if they are having trouble adjusting to FBS depth.

This. I think he hit the nail on the head. Our first conference game against USA in Mobile will tell the rest of the conference a lot about what they can expect from us this season. It will be our 4th game so by then the offensive kinks should have been worked out. I'm not predicting 8-4 like that guy, but I'm not going to say its out of the realm of possibility.

To be honest, most of the games on our schedule because of who we play and WHERE we play them have me doing this:

Hard to find anyone out there that does not think AppSt and GaSt are going to be very, very solid FBS programs.

This year however is going to be a shock for their fan's and not in a positive way.

GaSt is the only SBC team that should not handle both with relative ease.

Simply do not have the FBS depth to be a factor, except in an upset, and that probably only happens if the other team takes a win for granted. The depth required at every position to be successful over a season of FBS football is something FCS fans simply cannot grasp.

In fact that has been the downfall of a number of good SBC teams that have started out like gang busters , then faded down the stretch and I still question the quality of their depth.

(07-16-2014 12:12 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 10:52 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 10:30 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 10:23 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  He's been saying that about Southern for a while. His overall outlook for the SBC was something like.

"South Alabama is excellent, ULM is dangerous, and Troy and Georgia Southern will challenge for the title, but ultimately the SBC Championship should come down to the Arkansas State at Louisiana Lafayette showdown on Oct 21st."

He's been really pushing how good the Eagles can be. I will admit, not playing stAte or ULL is a huge advantage. Realistically, the only conference game that looks like a likely loss for the Eagles is their early season trip to Mobile. That being said, the home games against Troy, ULM, and App are virtual land mines that could cause a ton of problems if they are having trouble adjusting to FBS depth.

This. I think he hit the nail on the head. Our first conference game against USA in Mobile will tell the rest of the conference a lot about what they can expect from us this season. It will be our 4th game so by then the offensive kinks should have been worked out. I'm not predicting 8-4 like that guy, but I'm not going to say its out of the realm of possibility.

To be honest, most of the games on our schedule because of who we play and WHERE we play them have me doing this:

Hard to find anyone out there that does not think AppSt and GaSt are going to be very, very solid FBS programs.

This year however is going to be a shock for their fan's and not in a positive way.

GaSt is the only SBC team that should not handle both with relative ease.

Simply do not have the FBS depth to be a factor, except in an upset, and that probably only happens if the other team takes a win for granted. The depth required at every position to be successful over a season of FBS football is something FCS fans simply cannot grasp.

In fact that has been the downfall of a number of good SBC teams that have started out like gang busters , then faded down the stretch and I still question the quality of their depth.

I agree that it could be a culture shock, but depth is a general issue in the nonAQ conferences. Quick question for any App fan, didn't they redshirt the entire '13 recruiting class?

(07-16-2014 11:13 AM)hapapp Wrote:  I want us to be competitive and am not really focused on the final record. I think most knowledgeable App State fans understand what is before us and have no grand expectations. A .500 season would be great in my opinion but I believe we could be a better team than last year but not necessarily see that in the final won-loss record. I still believe we are a year a way from putting a product on the field that has to be taken seriously.

(07-16-2014 11:13 AM)hapapp Wrote:  I want us to be competitive and am not really focused on the final record. I think most knowledgeable App State fans understand what is before us and have no grand expectations. A .500 season would be great in my opinion but I believe we could be a better team than last year but not necessarily see that in the final won-loss record. I still believe we are a year a way from putting a product on the field that has to be taken seriously.

(07-17-2014 11:43 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  This, for GaSou for me as well. The W/L record is not as important to me as how well we are playing towards the end of the year and how the recruiting class is shaping up. Anything above .500 would be great our first year.

(07-17-2014 11:52 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 11:43 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  This, for GaSou for me as well. The W/L record is not as important to me as how well we are playing towards the end of the year and how the recruiting class is shaping up. Anything above .500 would be great our first year.

I would think you will be playing worse ball at the end of the year. (In theory) Your starters will be playing more, as you don't have depth built up. By the end of the year, while they may have a better grasp of the system and be able to execute it better, I figure your players will be worn down a bit and therefore the performance might not be too hot.

It's a mixed bag. I agree with your sentiment that anything above .500 is a great year for you guys, but I'd temper it and say 4+ wins is a solid first season.

Now, next year? You guys have your FBS recruiting class from this year primarily redshirted (I would imagine) will have a year in the weight room and a year in the system. So next year, you will have MUCH better depth, which puts you in a position to make a move.