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RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - ark30inf - 04-12-2014 02:21 PM

(04-12-2014 02:01 PM)Liberty Fan Wrote:  A couple of people have tweeted about Missouri State, but I fail to find a single real news story out of Missouri that indicates it's close to happening? You would think their local media would be picking up on it if were true.

https://www.google.com/search?q=moursi+state+sun+belt&safe=off&hl=en&gbv=2&prmd=ivns&source=lnms&tbm=nws&tbs=qdr:d&sa=X&ei=94tJU96WKfKrsQTn64DgDQ&ved=0CAcQ_AU#gbv=2&hl=en&q=Missouri+state+sun+belt&safe=off&tbm=nws&tbs=qdr:w

Their board granted their President authority in all matters related to conference membership at their last board meeting. That has been a pretty reliable signal of conference switch during recent rounds of realignment.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - Liberty Fan - 04-12-2014 02:37 PM

(04-12-2014 02:21 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Their board granted their President authority in all matters related to conference membership at their last board meeting. That has been a pretty reliable signal of conference switch during recent rounds of realignment.

On my Google searches this is the only real news source I could find? Everything else is just a some bloggers opinion.

http://www.wearecentralpa.com/story/d/story/in-the-fcs-huddle-fcs-to-fbs-race-tightens/73457/VaYuFk5SXkakWUBPr7l6RQ

"FCS programs Jacksonville State, Alabama State, Eastern Kentucky, Missouri State and Sam Houston State have been bandied about as other possibilities for the Sun Belt, but really the favorites (JMU and Liberty) have been there all along."


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - GE and MTS - 04-12-2014 02:47 PM

I think Missouri State would be added regardless of what happens in the east. App State would still need a travel partner and I doubt the eastern schools would vote in Missouri State if they weren't promised another school in the east. If JMU does not accept an invite, I'm pretty sure that will mean Liberty gets the nod and they won't turn it down. If Liberty wants in the Sun Belt, they aren't competing against MSU.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - chiefsfan - 04-12-2014 02:52 PM

(04-12-2014 02:01 PM)Liberty Fan Wrote:  A couple of people have tweeted about Missouri State, but I fail to find a single real news story out of Missouri that indicates it's close to happening? You would think their local media would be picking up on it if were true.

https://www.google.com/search?q=moursi+state+sun+belt&safe=off&hl=en&gbv=2&prmd=ivns&source=lnms&tbm=nws&tbs=qdr:d&sa=X&ei=94tJU96WKfKrsQTn64DgDQ&ved=0CAcQ_AU#gbv=2&hl=en&q=Missouri+state+sun+belt&safe=off&tbm=nws&tbs=qdr:w

Missouri State refuses to comment on anything concerning FBS and realignment. Its just how they work. When they do end up moving to FBS, it will be spur of the moment without a single study done.

Though if you want proof they are up to something. The fact their president was seen at the Sun Belt Conference Tournament should tell you they are at least considering leaving the Valley.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - chiefsfan - 04-12-2014 02:54 PM

(04-12-2014 02:47 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  I think Missouri State would be added regardless of what happens in the east. App State would still need a travel partner and I doubt the eastern schools would vote in Missouri State if they weren't promised another school in the east. If JMU does not accept an invite, I'm pretty sure that will mean Liberty gets the nod and they won't turn it down. If Liberty wants in the Sun Belt, they aren't competing against MSU.


Missouri State simply depends on whether they want to join. Liberty strictly depends on whether JMU says no, and enough Presidents are willing to vote for the Flames.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - SoCalBobcat78 - 04-12-2014 03:02 PM

(04-12-2014 01:22 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  
(04-12-2014 12:48 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  
(04-12-2014 12:13 PM)Eagleditka Wrote:  
(04-11-2014 10:53 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(04-11-2014 10:39 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Benson is here for our Spring game tomorrow and I am told he will be interviewed by our radio guys sometime tomorrow during the Spring game. I am sure he will be questioned about Sun Belt expansion. Maybe he will say something other than the company line that we need a 12th football playing school from the eastern part of the conference.

I bet he mentions Liberty at least once.

No mention of Liberty. But he said we will have a 12th team in 2015. Whatever that means.

If nothing else, it confirms the conference won't stand pat. Either JMU accepts an invitation, or there will be an invitation to a fallback school. None of the fallback choices is ideal so the least objectionable will get the offer.

Missouri State makes the most sense and has the largest potential. If they weren't buried in the SW corner of Missouri (travel-wise), then I'd love to see them in the MAC. In my eyes, MO State is pretty comparable to JMU. MO State has better basketball, JMU has better football - both have room to grow and plenty of potential. JMU holds a slight edge, but Mo State would be fully committed in for the long haul where JMU will always be looking for the mythical eastern conference.

You need to check your vision. It is not even close:

1. JMU has a $34 million athletic budget. Missouri State is at $14 million.
2. Missouri State has not been to the FCS playoffs since 1990. JMU has been there 9 times in that period, winning the national championship in 2004.
3. JMU had an average football attendance of 21,011 per game last season. Missouri State averaged 8,700.
4. JMU has an FBS ready football facility that seats 25,000. Missouri State has an older facility that seats 16,600 and is not FBS ready.
5. JMU is ranked in Forbes Best Colleges at #168. Missouri State is ranked at #526. That is important to the Presidents.

I could add that the population growth and the FBS talent favors the state of Virginia and JMU. If you are in an olympic sports league, then maybe Missouri State is the better option. If your in an FBS league, Missouri State is not close to being ready. They are a mediocre FCS program that lacks the money to move up. That is not the kind of program the SBC needs.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - ark30inf - 04-12-2014 03:08 PM

(04-12-2014 03:02 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  They are a mediocre FCS program that lacks the money to move up. That is not the kind of program the SBC needs.

Its never stopped us before.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - chiefsfan - 04-12-2014 03:12 PM

(04-12-2014 03:02 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(04-12-2014 01:22 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  
(04-12-2014 12:48 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  
(04-12-2014 12:13 PM)Eagleditka Wrote:  
(04-11-2014 10:53 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I bet he mentions Liberty at least once.

No mention of Liberty. But he said we will have a 12th team in 2015. Whatever that means.

If nothing else, it confirms the conference won't stand pat. Either JMU accepts an invitation, or there will be an invitation to a fallback school. None of the fallback choices is ideal so the least objectionable will get the offer.

Missouri State makes the most sense and has the largest potential. If they weren't buried in the SW corner of Missouri (travel-wise), then I'd love to see them in the MAC. In my eyes, MO State is pretty comparable to JMU. MO State has better basketball, JMU has better football - both have room to grow and plenty of potential. JMU holds a slight edge, but Mo State would be fully committed in for the long haul where JMU will always be looking for the mythical eastern conference.

You need to check your vision. It is not even close:

1. JMU has a $34 million athletic budget. Missouri State is at $14 million.
2. Missouri State has not been to the FCS playoffs since 1990. JMU has been there 9 times in that period, winning the national championship in 2004.
3. JMU had an average football attendance of 21,011 per game last season. Missouri State averaged 8,700.
4. JMU has an FBS ready football facility that seats 25,000. Missouri State has an older facility that seats 16,600 and is not FBS ready.
5. JMU is ranked in Forbes Best Colleges at #168. Missouri State is ranked at #526. That is important to the Presidents.

I could add that the population growth and the FBS talent favors the state of Virginia and JMU. If you are in an olympic sports league, then maybe Missouri State is the better option. If your in an FBS league, Missouri State is not close to being ready. They are a mediocre FCS program that lacks the money to move up. That is not the kind of program the SBC needs.

Academics is not a big deal in this. None of our schools have high enough academic numbers that we can sneeze at someone who doesn't. This is all about increasing our profile. Both JMU and Missouri State do that. Liberty might...it would depend how they develop.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - Eagleditka - 04-12-2014 03:20 PM

Yeah we would love JMU to just go ahead and join, but if they say no again, we have to move on. We're not adding Mo State based off what they've done but for their potential. I hate to use this example but it's like adding Georgia State. Basketball school with potential to be more based on its location and name profile.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - MSUBear42 - 04-12-2014 03:30 PM

(04-12-2014 03:02 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(04-12-2014 01:22 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  
(04-12-2014 12:48 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  
(04-12-2014 12:13 PM)Eagleditka Wrote:  
(04-11-2014 10:53 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I bet he mentions Liberty at least once.

No mention of Liberty. But he said we will have a 12th team in 2015. Whatever that means.

If nothing else, it confirms the conference won't stand pat. Either JMU accepts an invitation, or there will be an invitation to a fallback school. None of the fallback choices is ideal so the least objectionable will get the offer.

Missouri State makes the most sense and has the largest potential. If they weren't buried in the SW corner of Missouri (travel-wise), then I'd love to see them in the MAC. In my eyes, MO State is pretty comparable to JMU. MO State has better basketball, JMU has better football - both have room to grow and plenty of potential. JMU holds a slight edge, but Mo State would be fully committed in for the long haul where JMU will always be looking for the mythical eastern conference.

You need to check your vision. It is not even close:

1. JMU has a $34 million athletic budget. Missouri State is at $14 million.
2. Missouri State has not been to the FCS playoffs since 1990. JMU has been there 9 times in that period, winning the national championship in 2004.
3. JMU had an average football attendance of 21,011 per game last season. Missouri State averaged 8,700.
4. JMU has an FBS ready football facility that seats 25,000. Missouri State has an older facility that seats 16,600 and is not FBS ready.
5. JMU is ranked in Forbes Best Colleges at #168. Missouri State is ranked at #526. That is important to the Presidents.

I could add that the population growth and the FBS talent favors the state of Virginia and JMU. If you are in an olympic sports league, then maybe Missouri State is the better option. If your in an FBS league, Missouri State is not close to being ready. They are a mediocre FCS program that lacks the money to move up. That is not the kind of program the SBC needs.

I would pick JMU over us as well, but you don't add us for right now, you add us for our potential.

These last 10-15 years have been the W O R S T athletically for MSU. It's no wonder our numbers are low. But with the insane money we are pumping into facilities, I don't doubt that we will get better.

But, keep hating.