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RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - Saint3333 - 04-12-2014 08:53 AM

Through this whole process the MAC guys seem to think the SBC is desperate, when actually it is only Benson that is. Most fans are content with holding at 11.

If anything this last week has produced a positive for the SBC general public, we have learned that Idaho is a short term member and will allow for FCS programs like Mo. St. to improve over the next two years. I'd say our hand has improved from a fan's perspective with that news.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - The4thOption - 04-12-2014 09:13 AM

(04-12-2014 08:53 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Through this whole process the MAC guys seem to think the SBC is desperate, when actually it is only Benson that is. Most fans are content with holding at 11.

If anything this last week has produced a positive for the SBC general public, we have learned that Idaho is a short term member and will allow for FCS programs like Mo. St. to improve over the next two years. I'd say our hand has improved from a fan's perspective with that news.

I wouldn't gage that most fans are content with 11 members. We aren't desperate but all candidates mentioned bring something to the table for the conference. Yes, even Liberty.

I want a CCG. I want JMU. - But I'd be fine with LU. Missouri State means very little to me - I'd rather have LU.

I think the MAC programs are afraid of the rise of the Sun Belt, and for good reason. IMOP - The MAC is the weakest of all G5 conferences today. Most of them probably don't believe that is true right now, but the ones that don't believe that it is already true can probably see the writing on the wall. I'd absolutely HATE to be in the MAC. I'd take the invite if it was our only path - Heck I would have taken a "WAC-E" invite if we would have had to for the move to FBS. But I think some of their jeers and fun pokes are out of fear. I suppose the ones that rank basketball first are just fine with the MAC - and that is fine with me. Different strokes as they say! But in Football - they are the bottom of the pack and I see no upward movement for them with the exception of NIU. If you really value the future of your football program, why would you want a MAC invite if the Sun Belt were an option? I can see the argument for CUSA, although we have risen above them on the gridiron as well.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - GoApps70 - 04-12-2014 09:16 AM

Why are almost all the MAC posters so opposed to JMU doing anything.
No real indication that they they would ever take JMU. And if offered
would JMU really want to play in Eastern Michigan in December in front of 4,500.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - Saint3333 - 04-12-2014 09:27 AM

Let me rephrase that most fans are content with staying at 11 unless JMU is willing or waiting a year for Mo. St. (or comparable program).


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - appsfan - 04-12-2014 09:34 AM

(04-11-2014 10:53 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(04-11-2014 10:39 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Benson is here for our Spring game tomorrow and I am told he will be interviewed by our radio guys sometime tomorrow during the Spring game. I am sure he will be questioned about Sun Belt expansion. Maybe he will say something other than the company line that we need a 12th football playing school from the eastern part of the conference.

I bet he mentions Liberty at least once.
What is the over/under on Liberty mentions?


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - GoApps70 - 04-12-2014 09:37 AM

There is no assurance we would go to a conference championship game even if we went to 12.
Last I heard the conference was pretty divided over it.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - ChooChoo - 04-12-2014 09:40 AM

well would these conferences stack up by comparison?:
EKU - WKU
JMU - Marshall
Liberty - ODU
App St - Charlotte
GA St - FIU
GA So - FAU
Troy - MTSU
__________
USA - UAB
UL - USM
ULM - La Tech
AR St - UNT
MO St - Rice
TX St - UTSA
NM St - UTEP
_______
UALR
UTA

I know 14/16 is a large conference but its not unrealistic to think it could be effective and very competitive.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - ark30inf - 04-12-2014 09:42 AM

(04-12-2014 09:37 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  There is no assurance we would go to a conference championship game even if we went to 12.
Last I heard the conference was pretty divided over it.

I would want to see hard numbers of what sort of revenue we could be guaranteed to get out of it. I don't know that they would be that impressive.

I don't rule it out, but until I see some huge benefit for having one I'm going to remain very skeptical.

Benson wanting a special event to oversee isn't enough for me.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - Panarican - 04-12-2014 10:02 AM

(04-12-2014 09:42 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(04-12-2014 09:37 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  There is no assurance we would go to a conference championship game even if we went to 12.
Last I heard the conference was pretty divided over it.

I would want to see hard numbers of what sort of revenue we could be guaranteed to get out of it. I don't know that they would be that impressive.

I don't rule it out, but until I see some huge benefit for having one I'm going to remain very skeptical.

Benson wanting a special event to oversee isn't enough for me.

The benefit would be an extra argument that we desrve a spot in a college football playoff format. Especially if one of our schools go undefeated. Hard to argue a seat at the table without a conference championship.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - ark30inf - 04-12-2014 10:32 AM

(04-12-2014 10:02 AM)Panarican Wrote:  
(04-12-2014 09:42 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(04-12-2014 09:37 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  There is no assurance we would go to a conference championship game even if we went to 12.
Last I heard the conference was pretty divided over it.

I would want to see hard numbers of what sort of revenue we could be guaranteed to get out of it. I don't know that they would be that impressive.

I don't rule it out, but until I see some huge benefit for having one I'm going to remain very skeptical.

Benson wanting a special event to oversee isn't enough for me.

The benefit would be an extra argument that we desrve a spot in a college football playoff format. Especially if one of our schools go undefeated. Hard to argue a seat at the table without a conference championship.

It can work both ways as evidenced by Houston. I'd also like to see firm bowl guarantees for whoever loses the championship game. No jumping over the loser of the championship game to grab a bowl slot. Not a password protected guideline...an actual guarantee. We had a defacto championship game a couple of years ago and the loser (MTSU) sat at home. There is more to it than just saying, hey now we have a championship game.