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RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - chiefsfan - 04-09-2014 11:10 PM

(04-09-2014 11:09 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(04-09-2014 11:03 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I don't see that the Sun Belt owes UMass anything. Idaho joined this year knowing that it was only a 2 year football agreement. The Sun Belt does not owe them anything beyond that either.

Its a 4 year agreement, with a 2 year option to expel, renew, or keep the original agreement.

Yes. We can terminate the agreement after two years, with two years notice. Which is why you hear the talk we'll play 13 if need be. It would only be for a couple years while Idaho plays out its time, and getting the Waiver would be easy.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - chiefsfan - 04-09-2014 11:12 PM

(04-09-2014 11:10 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  
(04-09-2014 11:07 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  SBC Doesn't use divisions in Olympic Sports.

Not currently. But it may be desirable from a travel standpoint if you go to 12+ members.

We've had 13 before for a few years. Tried divisions for a while, but from what I remember our coaches were dead set against it.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - HawaiiMongoose - 04-09-2014 11:14 PM

(04-09-2014 11:04 PM)slycat Wrote:  How long til y'all take Idaho back and the circle is complete again? You can add Montana for balance.

The chances of the MWC adding Idaho and Montana are none and none. If the conference lost a member and was forced to expand, the target would be UTEP. If there were multiple losses, the conference would go after some combination of UTEP, UTSA, North Texas, Texas State and Rice. If the Texas schools all said no, UC Davis would be higher on the list of potential invitees than Idaho or Montana.

Don't get me wrong, I like both schools, but neither Idaho nor Montana brings a population base. The Sacramento market has three times the population of the entire state of Montana.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - GaSoEagle - 04-09-2014 11:15 PM

O.K. then go with 13 teams for a couple more years. The plan still gets a championship game starting next year and eliminates outlier Idaho.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - Tom in Lazybrook - 04-09-2014 11:16 PM

(04-09-2014 11:10 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  
(04-09-2014 11:07 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  SBC Doesn't use divisions in Olympic Sports.

Not currently. But it may be desirable from a travel standpoint if you go to 12+ members.

Few conferences use divisions in Olympic Sports.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - Kittonhead - 04-09-2014 11:18 PM

(04-09-2014 11:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(04-09-2014 11:09 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(04-09-2014 11:03 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I don't see that the Sun Belt owes UMass anything. Idaho joined this year knowing that it was only a 2 year football agreement. The Sun Belt does not owe them anything beyond that either.

Its a 4 year agreement, with a 2 year option to expel, renew, or keep the original agreement.

Yes. We can terminate the agreement after two years, with two years notice. Which is why you hear the talk we'll play 13 if need be. It would only be for a couple years while Idaho plays out its time, and getting the Waiver would be easy.

Given all the realignment possibilities out there the chances of Idaho getting the boot with 2 years notice in 2016 are probably no better than 25%.

All it takes is one realignment move to trickle down to the SBC.....B1G->ACC->-AAC->CUSA->SBC and all of the sudden those 13 football members become 12.

CUSA could grab 2 more SBC's before its next TV deal kicks in and then the SBC is at 11 hoping UMass is still on the market.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - TOPSTRAIGHT - 04-09-2014 11:22 PM

Was this Idaho "exit clause" ever brought up before tonight? There were several threads which brought up the SBC would be "stuck" with Idaho,etc.,etc..Idaho's a bad move-blah,blah,blah.If someone had shown the exit clause then it would have changed many opinions!!(see post#30).


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - GoAppsGo92 - 04-09-2014 11:22 PM

(04-09-2014 11:03 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  I don't see that the Sun Belt owes UMass anything. Idaho joined this year knowing that it was only a 2 year football agreement. The Sun Belt does not owe them anything beyond that either.

No one said the SBC owes UMASS anything. I think that if UMASS can't find a home and we are at 13 with Idaho as football only, it would be discussed to bring an east coast football only into the mix. If both were paying annual dues, and there was a travel offset agreement like we have with IDAHO, then it might work to get to 14 that way. My preference is for this evening's rumors to come true and that we have 2 full members joining the league in the footprint of the conference. We can have the UMASS/IDAHO discussion next year.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - Kittonhead - 04-09-2014 11:24 PM

(04-09-2014 11:15 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  O.K. then go with 13 teams for a couple more years. The plan still gets a championship game starting next year and eliminates outlier Idaho.

That assumes a lot of things. No realignment and Idaho continuing to be a poor performing team.

If Idaho starts playing Top 40 football I don't think you'll see a strong movement in the conference office to nix a program that is helping them earn money, IMO.


RE: Reports out of missouri saying JMU and MSU recieved invite - chiefsfan - 04-09-2014 11:25 PM

(04-09-2014 11:22 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Was this Idaho "exit clause" ever brought up before tonight? There were several threads which brought up the SBC would be "stuck" with Idaho,etc.,etc..Idaho's a bad move-blah,blah,blah.If someone had shown the exit clause then it would have changed many opinions!!(see post#30).

Well, the North Dakota fan said there was an FOI for it...so we went and found it.