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Obama to speak AGAIN - Paul M - 09-10-2009 09:03 AM
He knows he didn't get it done last night and is giving another address this morning. Is none of his people telling him the more he is exposed the more exposed he is.
RE: Obama to speak AGAIN - DrTorch - 09-10-2009 09:05 AM
(09-10-2009 09:03 AM)Paul M Wrote: He knows he didn't get it done last night and is giving another address this morning. Is none of his people telling him the more he is exposed the more exposed he is.
Analysts are saying he was successful last night. And Sen Wilson's comments may have galvanized the Dems.
Nothing like stubborness and arrogance among our civil "servants".
RE: Obama to speak AGAIN - GGniner - 09-10-2009 09:12 AM
CNN went so far as to create a bogus poll showing a 1 in 7 shift to Obamacare last night.
at the end you learn CNN chose to sample in the poll only 18% Republicans while sampling 45% Democrats. i.e. the poll is irrelevant and only meant for a headline in attempt to influence the public.
Rasmussen has a new poll out, 53% oppose Obamacare
RE: Obama to speak AGAIN - GGniner - 09-10-2009 09:13 AM
(09-10-2009 09:05 AM)DrTorch Wrote:(09-10-2009 09:03 AM)Paul M Wrote: He knows he didn't get it done last night and is giving another address this morning. Is none of his people telling him the more he is exposed the more exposed he is.
Analysts are saying he was successful last night. And Sen Wilson's comments may have galvanized the Dems.
Nothing like stubborness and arrogance among our civil "servants".
They are galvanized alright, Wilson's website is shutdown at the moment. No doubt every dem operative around the country is giving the man the Joe the Plumber treatment for calling out the Lying Messiah
RE: Obama to speak AGAIN - Paul M - 09-10-2009 09:19 AM
Again, Wilson is being attacked for CORRECTLY identifying a liar, while the liar get a pass for wrongly labeling everyone else liars.
RE: Obama to speak AGAIN - GGniner - 09-10-2009 09:28 AM
Whats important to understand here, is that Obama beleives that it is MORAL to LIE to people, so long as he beleives its for the Collective Good. That is his philosophical foundation, blurred by political forces occassionaly(need to save his own tail). The Platonic "Noble Lie", in which our Elitist(smarter than us Serfs) Philosopher Kings(or Guardians as Plato put it), will Lie to us because Socialized Medicine is such a Collectively Moral thing. For us Serfs of course, Obama and the rest of our leaders refuse to have this apply to their own healthcare.
Guardians better than Serfs, in obamaland.
RE: Obama to speak AGAIN - griffen - 09-10-2009 09:33 AM
Every time Obama opens his mouth...his IQ drops.
Keep talkin' Obama...
RE: Obama to speak AGAIN - Tripster - 09-10-2009 10:24 AM
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All I heard were "repackaged lies" and more of the same old tired bullsh't.
There was not one thing he said last night that he has not been saying for weeks now.
So if the Lib's are this weak minded and plainly utterly stupid, well then let them push the "Nuclear Option" and next year, when the Nuke goes off, they lose the Congress and in 2012, the get ran out of the White House.
I swear these people are freaks of nature and are so blissfully arrogant, that they are actually going to commit Political Suicide for this Dude in the White House as they watch him burn and fall from the skies like the Hindenburg.
2010 and 2012 can NOT come quickly enough for me ......
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RE: Obama to speak AGAIN - GGniner - 09-10-2009 10:30 AM
odds of ObamaCare passing are tanking this morning on InTrade
RE: Obama to speak AGAIN - claytonbigsby - 09-10-2009 11:08 AM
(09-10-2009 09:19 AM)Paul M Wrote: Again, Wilson is being attacked for CORRECTLY identifying a liar, while the liar get a pass for wrongly labeling everyone else liars.
It was just the wrong venue. My dad use to say there is a time and place for everything. I thought the chamber was about to become like a townhall meeting.
RE: Obama to speak AGAIN - Machiavelli - 09-10-2009 11:10 AM
What's the percent rate now on Obamacare? Do they call it that?
RE: Obama to speak AGAIN - Machiavelli - 09-10-2009 11:11 AM
Something will get passed. I could see the public option tanking.
RE: Obama to speak AGAIN - GGniner - 09-10-2009 11:11 AM
It was the wrong Venue for the President of the United States, to grandstand and call all his Opponents Liars.
It would be different had Obama not gone that far, and Wilson called him a Liar.
Summary:
Obama: My Opponents are Cynical LIARS, and I will call them out
MSM/Left: Applause, tingle running up their legs
Wilson to Obama: You Lie
MSM/Left: predicitibale outrage.
RE: Obama to speak AGAIN - GGniner - 09-10-2009 11:17 AM
can't find the link right now but read it dropped this morning on InTrade.
you can find it unless its blocked at your school like CATO, blocked for me as "Gambling" site
few weeks ago the Public Option on InTrade was at 15% odds of passing I think
RE: Obama to speak AGAIN - claytonbigsby - 09-10-2009 11:58 AM
Talk of death panels and taking medicaid away from seniors is not true. What channel had the tingle run down their leg?
RE: Obama to speak AGAIN - RobertN - 09-10-2009 12:00 PM
(09-10-2009 09:33 AM)griffen Wrote: Every time Obama opens his mouth...his IQ drops.Oddly enough, everytime you post...your IQ goes down.
Keep talkin' Obama...
Keep posting Republican whackjob.
RE: Obama to speak AGAIN - RobertN - 09-10-2009 12:02 PM
(09-10-2009 10:24 AM)Tripster Wrote: .Who the hell on the right could win in 2012? Joe Wilson?
All I heard were "repackaged lies" and more of the same old tired bullsh't.
There was not one thing he said last night that he has not been saying for weeks now.
So if the Lib's are this weak minded and plainly utterly stupid, well then let them push the "Nuclear Option" and next year, when the Nuke goes off, they lose the Congress and in 2012, the get ran out of the White House.
I swear these people are freaks of nature and are so blissfully arrogant, that they are actually going to commit Political Suicide for this Dude in the White House as they watch him burn and fall from the skies like the Hindenburg.
2010 and 2012 can NOT come quickly enough for me ......
.
RE: Obama to speak AGAIN - Rebel - 09-10-2009 12:11 PM
(09-10-2009 12:02 PM)RobertN Wrote:(09-10-2009 10:24 AM)Tripster Wrote: .Who the hell on the right could win in 2012? Joe Wilson?
All I heard were "repackaged lies" and more of the same old tired bullsh't.
There was not one thing he said last night that he has not been saying for weeks now.
So if the Lib's are this weak minded and plainly utterly stupid, well then let them push the "Nuclear Option" and next year, when the Nuke goes off, they lose the Congress and in 2012, the get ran out of the White House.
I swear these people are freaks of nature and are so blissfully arrogant, that they are actually going to commit Political Suicide for this Dude in the White House as they watch him burn and fall from the skies like the Hindenburg.
2010 and 2012 can NOT come quickly enough for me ......
.
By the time all's said and done they could run Daffy f'n Duck against the inexperienced Kenyan and win.
RE: Obama to speak AGAIN - DrTorch - 09-10-2009 12:12 PM
(09-10-2009 11:08 AM)claytonbigsby Wrote:(09-10-2009 09:19 AM)Paul M Wrote: Again, Wilson is being attacked for CORRECTLY identifying a liar, while the liar get a pass for wrongly labeling everyone else liars.
It was just the wrong venue. My dad use to say there is a time and place for everything.
Your dad was right. However, this most certainly was the time and place. We don't serve the president, he serves us. We don't have a monarchy...we have a republic with a system of check and balances.
Having a vocal discussion is one piece to that. Having a tiresome monologue, filled with lies and untrue accuations is an insult to this country, and the principles which have given it success, is not.
The principles that have led to the US' success do NOT include blind subservience to the elected executive officer. Anyone willing to accept such subservience has the mindset of a slave. Anyone promoting it is a traitor.
RE: Obama to speak AGAIN - Rebel - 09-10-2009 12:12 PM
(09-10-2009 11:58 AM)claytonbigsby Wrote: Talk of death panels and taking medicaid away from seniors is not true.
Sure it is. There's no place on Earth that employs socialized medicine that doesn't have rationing. It's the only way it can fiscally work. As for seniors? They're ******. Why? Because Medicare, which presently is targeted towards seniors) will be going away and they'll be in the same pool as 30 and 40 year olds. Would you want to compete with someone 35 who's a taxpayer when you're sitting at home retired and collecting SS?