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The Ayatollah Speaks! 'No rigged election" - WoodlandsOwl - 06-19-2009 08:28 AM
There is no reason to hold off on covert assistance to the dissidents now. Obama could have rationalized that he was going to let the Iranian system handle the dispute, but now its clear that it’s an Ayatollah Whitewash. Obama can’t stay on the sidelines now, otherwise he will appear to be as big of a ****** as Jimmy Carter. As for his hopes for dialog with Iran-- its pretty damn clear to me that Ahmadinejad isn't going to give up the nukes.
An Iranian Revolution that disposes of the Mullahs also likely prevents an Israeli attack on Iran.
Its time for Big Ears to get off his butt and do something.
TEHRAN, Iran – Iran's supreme leader said Friday that the country's disputed presidential vote had not been rigged, sternly warning protesters of a crackdown if they continue massive demonstrations demanding a new election.
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei sided with hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and offered no concessions to the opposition. He effectively closed any chance for a new vote by calling the June 12 election an "absolute victory."
The speech created a stark choice for candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi and his supporters: Drop their demands for a new vote or take to the streets again in blatant defiance of the man endowed with virtually limitless powers under Iran's constitution.
Pro-Mousavi Web sites had no immediate reaction to Khamenei's warning and no announcement of any changes in a protest planned for 4 p.m. Saturday.
Khamenei accused foreign media and Western countries of trying to create a political rift and stir up chaos in Iran. Iranian leaders often blame foreign "enemies" for plots against the country, but Khamenei's comments suggest Iran could remain cool to expanding dialogue with the West and the offer of opening talks with Washington.
"Some of our enemies in different parts of the world intended to depict this absolute victory, this definitive victory, as a doubtful victory," he said. "It is your victory. They cannot manipulate it."
Khamenei said the 11 million votes that separated Ahmadinejad from his top opponent, Mousavi, were proof that fraud did not occur. Ahmadinejad watched the sermon from the front row. State television did not show Mousavi in attendance.
"If the difference was 100,000 or 500,000 or 1 million, well, one may say fraud could have happened. But how can one rig 11 million votes?" Khamenei asked during Friday prayers at Tehran University.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_iran_election
RE: The Ayatollah Speaks! 'No rigged election" - GGniner - 06-19-2009 08:44 AM
How much of the Iraq mess do you think was at the hands of Iran? Seems to me they have it coming, in a just world.
Obama would rather condem Israel though and rush to condem a muderer of an unapologetic abortionist.
RE: The Ayatollah Speaks! 'No rigged election" - WoodlandsOwl - 06-19-2009 08:46 AM
Maybe Obama sent ACORN Reps over to Iran?
Turnouts of more than 100% were recorded in at least 30 Iranian towns in last week's disputed presidential election, opposition sources have claimed.
In the most specific allegations of rigging yet to emerge, the centrist Ayandeh website – which stayed neutral during the campaign – reported that 26 provinces across the country showed participation figures so high they were either hitherto unheard of in democratic elections or in excess of the number of registered electors.
Taft, a town in the central province of Yazd, had a turnout of 141%, the site said, quoting an unnamed "political expert". Kouhrang, in Chahar Mahaal Bakhtiari province, recorded a 132% turnout while Chadegan, in Isfahan province, had 120%.
Ayandeh's source said at least 200 polling stations across Iran recorded participation rates of 95% or above. "This is generally considered scientifically impossible because out of every given cohort of 20 voters, there will be at least one who is either ill, out of the country, has recently died or is unable to participate for some other reasons," the source said. "It is also unprecedented in the history of Iran and all other democratic countries."
The claims are impossible to verify, but they are consistent with comments made by a former Iranian interior minister, Ali Akbar Mohtashamipour, who said on Tuesday that 70 polling stations returned more completed ballot papers than the number of locally eligible voters.
Supporters of the defeated reformist candidates, Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karoubi, have complained that their campaigns' inspectors were refused access to or ejected from polling centres on election day.
Abbas Abdi, a Karoubi supporter who was among the radical students who took over the US embassy in Tehran in 1979, said some polling stations had run out of ballot papers as early as 10.30am – even though it is standard procedure to issue each voting centre with more ballots than the number of voters.
After polling times were extended beyond the original 6pm closing time, other stations refused to provide ballot papers for fear that participation would exceed the number of voters on the register, Abdi told Radio Zamaaneh, a Farsi-language station based in the Netherlands.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2009/jun/17/iran-election-rigging
RE: The Ayatollah Speaks! 'No rigged election" - Fo Shizzle - 06-19-2009 01:04 PM
And for the next news flash....pot makes you high.
RE: The Ayatollah Speaks! 'No rigged election" - GGniner - 06-19-2009 01:48 PM
Quote:“When Ronald Reagan went before the Brandenburg Gate, he did not say ‘Mr. Gorbachev, that wall is none of our business,’”
said Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind.
RE: The Ayatollah Speaks! 'No rigged election" - RockyMtnRamfan - 06-19-2009 03:23 PM
Ayatollah used Diebold machines to "count" votes.
RE: The Ayatollah Speaks! 'No rigged election" - THE NC Herd Fan - 06-19-2009 03:33 PM
Well there you have it, that should clear up any questions.
RE: The Ayatollah Speaks! 'No rigged election" - Ninerfan1 - 06-20-2009 07:42 PM
(06-19-2009 01:48 PM)GGniner Wrote:Quote:“When Ronald Reagan went before the Brandenburg Gate, he did not say ‘Mr. Gorbachev, that wall is none of our business,’”
said Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind.
Obama comes out for liberty...finally
Guess his advisors told him the feckless wimp approach to this wasn't playing well.