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- rteynor - 06-29-2005 02:04 PM
Quote:Allstate fires employee for criticism of gay marriage
Chicago, Jun. 27 (LifesiteNews.com/CWN) - An employee of the Allstate Insurance Company has been fired from his job for comments that appeared in a men's journal denouncing same-sex marriage, even though the article was penned in the employee's own spare time and from home.
<a href='http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=38058' target='_blank'>http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=38058</a>
The ACLU would seem to be a group to get all fired up about this. Will they do anything? Will they be asked?
- JTiger - 06-29-2005 02:40 PM
They helped Rush, why not him?
- blah - 06-29-2005 03:23 PM
Wow, what a sad commentary on where the U.S. is and is heading. I can't believe that someone would get fired over their right to free speech based on a complaint from a segment of the U.S. that violates most state's sodomy law every time the consumate their so-called "marriage."
Yeah, why don't you think about that. It makes me want to
- flyingswoosh - 06-29-2005 03:27 PM
i can understand it, if he made it clear he was an employee of all state. for instance, i work at nationwide, and i think i'd deserve to be fired if i made a statement like that, while making it clear i was speaking as a nationwide employee. there are a lot of people out there who might not buy insurance from all state if they thought that was the company's stance on gay marriage.
- gruehls - 06-29-2005 03:40 PM
could be worse; you could live in canada:
<a href='http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/06/28/racism-policy050628.html' target='_blank'>Ontario commission tackles subtle racism</a>
Quote:It retires the term "minority group" in favour of "racialized persons," a category that goes beyond skin colour and ethnic background.
"Racialization extends to people in general but also to specific traits and attributes, which are connected in some way to racialized people and are deemed to be 'abnormal' and of less worth,'" it says. "Individuals may have prejudices related to various racialized characteristics."
say what? how does race go beyond skin color and ethnic background?
- flyingswoosh - 06-29-2005 03:47 PM
gruehls Wrote:could be worse; you could live in canada:it's canada.
<a href='http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/06/28/racism-policy050628.html' target='_blank'>Ontario commission tackles subtle racism</a>
Quote:It retires the term "minority group" in favour of "racialized persons," a category that goes beyond skin colour and ethnic background.
"Racialization extends to people in general but also to specific traits and attributes, which are connected in some way to racialized people and are deemed to be 'abnormal' and of less worth,'" it says. "Individuals may have prejudices related to various racialized characteristics."
say what? how does race go beyond skin color and ethnic background?
- blah - 06-29-2005 04:21 PM
flyingswoosh Wrote:i can understand it, if he made it clear he was an employee of all state. for instance, i work at nationwide, and i think i'd deserve to be fired if i made a statement like that, while making it clear i was speaking as a nationwide employee. there are a lot of people out there who might not buy insurance from all state if they thought that was the company's stance on gay marriage.There are also probably a lot of people that would. I know I would be inclined to buy something from a company that took a stand for morale/family values.
- flyingswoosh - 06-29-2005 05:58 PM
blah Wrote:i think that number would be less.flyingswoosh Wrote:i can understand it, if he made it clear he was an employee of all state. for instance, i work at nationwide, and i think i'd deserve to be fired if i made a statement like that, while making it clear i was speaking as a nationwide employee. there are a lot of people out there who might not buy insurance from all state if they thought that was the company's stance on gay marriage.There are also probably a lot of people that would. I know I would be inclined to buy something from a company that took a stand for morale/family values.
- JTiger - 06-30-2005 09:06 AM
flyingswoosh Wrote:i can understand it, if he made it clear he was an employee of all state. for instance, i work at nationwide, and i think i'd deserve to be fired if i made a statement like that, while making it clear i was speaking as a nationwide employee. there are a lot of people out there who might not buy insurance from all state if they thought that was the company's stance on gay marriage.Right, it depends if the guy stated he was an employee at All-State. If he didn't use he title or talk about where he worked, he should sue. My company has the same policy.
- rteynor - 06-30-2005 09:20 AM
flyingswoosh Wrote:i can understand it, if he made it clear he was an employee of all state. for instance, i work at nationwide, and i think i'd deserve to be fired if i made a statement like that, while making it clear i was speaking as a nationwide employee. there are a lot of people out there who might not buy insurance from all state if they thought that was the company's stance on gay marriage.He did not say it as an Allstate employee, it was on his personal time, from home and (claims he) did not know the website would publish his personal information. If he'd have done it on Allstate's site, or from work, I could see that standing up. But, he did it apparently in any way BUT that.
Quote:Barber's commentary on same-sex marriage appeared in the online journal MensNewsDaily.com. A homosexual activist group had complained to Allstate after reading the article and noticing that Barber's biography mentioned that he was an employee there. Barber said the magazine added the information without his knowledge.
- rteynor - 06-30-2005 09:22 AM
blah Wrote:says the person that posts soft-core porn around here.flyingswoosh Wrote:i can understand it, if he made it clear he was an employee of all state. for instance, i work at nationwide, and i think i'd deserve to be fired if i made a statement like that, while making it clear i was speaking as a nationwide employee. there are a lot of people out there who might not buy insurance from all state if they thought that was the company's stance on gay marriage.There are also probably a lot of people that would. I know I would be inclined to buy something from a company that took a stand for morale/family values.
no offense, I hope, it just struck me as ironic.
- flyingswoosh - 06-30-2005 09:56 AM
JTiger Wrote:i agree.flyingswoosh Wrote:i can understand it, if he made it clear he was an employee of all state. for instance, i work at nationwide, and i think i'd deserve to be fired if i made a statement like that, while making it clear i was speaking as a nationwide employee. there are a lot of people out there who might not buy insurance from all state if they thought that was the company's stance on gay marriage.Right, it depends if the guy stated he was an employee at All-State. If he didn't use he title or talk about where he worked, he should sue. My company has the same policy.
- T-Monay820 - 06-30-2005 11:23 AM
Any update to whether the ACLU is on the case? Though I won't hold my breath.